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In reply to the discussion: Concern troll pretends to support but uses "concern" to hurt morale (GD) [View all]PatrickforO
(15,495 posts)To simply label people who have sometimes legitimate concerns about something as trolls is not always true.
For instance, on this gun control issue, I'm all for universal background checks, but have mixed feelings about the 'no fly no buy' idea. Why? Because last time I read the Bill of Rights I was presumed innocent until proven guilty with the onus of proof on the government. With the Patriot Act, which I have NO mixed feelings about, but am virulently against, we have basically given up our Bill of Rights in favor of being 'safe.' Think about who makes the most profits when fear becomes a normal condition for us as a people. This is why the condition has been and is being so carefully cultivated.
On the TPP, since I've read it, I have no real concerns - there is NO ambiguity. I'm totally against it, and believe it is the biggest corporate piece of shit that has been foisted off on working people since NAFTA. And, what has been hilarious to me is that while some do estimate that the USA lost upwards of 800,000 jobs due to NAFTA, if you say that the immediate response is, "No we didn't! That's absurd! That's been proven wrong!" OK...so it's actually 600,000. That is still pretty bad, don't you think? Because most of the jobs lost were good ones - jobs that had good pay, reasonable economic security, good benefits and defined pensions. Jobs someone could raise a family on, and they plopped them firmly in the middle class. These jobs have been replaced generally by lower paying service jobs. Fortunately we now face structural labor shortages - full employment, baby boomers retiring, big skills gap. That will drive wages and benefits up.
Or GATS. What about the good 'ol GATS treaty of 1995? We don't have single payer right now, and instead I have shitty, rationed healthcare with financially crippling copays, not because the Dems didn't have enough votes, but because it creates what is called a 'service monopoly' and is against provisions of GATS, of which we are a signatory. They didn't TELL US that, did they? Nope. We had to dig ourselves and find out. It took me a long time to get over my anger at Obama and the Democratic majorities of 2009 because of that. I campaigned for him BECAUSE OF HEALTHCARE and did indeed feel betrayed by this very party. My party and your party.
My point: Yeah, I am a Democrat - have been registered as a Democrat since 1984. But I absolutely refuse to shut up about stuff with which I disagree. I'm not gonna troll - but I'm sure gonna say if I am not in consensus with something this party is doing. You know why? It is your party, but it is my party too.