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HeartoftheMidwest

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64. If he was truly cornered, as reports say,....

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 02:48 PM

Jul 2016

...I wouldn't enter. No need to. Just sit and wait him out.
Or try tear gas.
I just don't want this to be a situation were the police were hell-bent on revenge, and wanted him dead at any cost. And did everything possible to do just that.
We're supposed to be a nation of laws ( if you didn't gag on that, or fall out of your chair laughing, I'll continue.... ) and it would have been proper, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, to wait the suspect out and see if they could talk him out...get a loved one or a former Army buddy the suspect trusted ( ? ) to talk to him, and arrest him, if * p o s s i b l e. *

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Sorry, but I am not comfortable with local police forces using explosives on citizens [View all] morningfog Jul 2016 OP

Welcome to the future of law enforcement Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #1

Send in the drones. Don't borher, they're here. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #17

Goddamn it. geardaddy Jul 2016 #33

That is the stuff of nightmares. LuvNewcastle Jul 2016 #69

A drone-powered machine gun BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #93

"RoboCop" might have been a documentary, like "Idiocracy.". nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #25

you mean it wasn't? nt Javaman Jul 2016 #58

A good movie about... TeeYiYi Jul 2016 #108

The police bombed Operation Move in Phily a few decades age, dropped a barrel bomb... Mika Jul 2016 #2

I am familiar. I know it is not without precedent. morningfog Jul 2016 #4

Oh, I agree 1000%. eom Mika Jul 2016 #11

And that worked out so well ... eppur_se_muova Jul 2016 #39

MOVE, not Push. Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #66

Thanks. Mika Jul 2016 #75

No problem. I lived not too far from them Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #83

I think the very fact that the Police even have explosive weaponry is part of a larger problem ... Statistical Jul 2016 #3

Well Said RobinA Jul 2016 #13

Actually, they were giving away the surplus military equipment, Ms. Toad Jul 2016 #89

Most of this list... getagrip_already Jul 2016 #97

It was him or them oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #5

Agreed. 840high Jul 2016 #72

I'm with you alc Jul 2016 #6

It kept others out of harms way. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #7

Did the shooter indicate that bombs were placed in other locations? Zambero Jul 2016 #8

Your point is excellent lunatica Jul 2016 #32

That actually struck me, too. LisaM Jul 2016 #9

They used a bomb disposal robot Abnredleg Jul 2016 #16

it was a claymore, not a bomb.... getagrip_already Jul 2016 #68

You might be surprised what else they have, courtesy of the 1033 program. Ms. Toad Jul 2016 #90

whether by bullet or bomb. the sniper is dead rollin74 Jul 2016 #10

Anything Used In Iraq Will Eventually Be Used At Home billhicks76 Jul 2016 #27

Escalation works both ways, unfortunately. Oneironaut Jul 2016 #99

Team America! Fuck Yeah! Cayenne Jul 2016 #76

I'll disagree and say this was well played. Bonx Jul 2016 #12

Give the robot a promotion. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2016 #14

Bow & arrow, gun, boomerang, etc.; I'm just glad they stopped him FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #15

it is a tool just like a gun is a tool Kali Jul 2016 #18

Yup. Agschmid Jul 2016 #48

I'm glad he's dead, but I'm worried about equipment creep Oneironaut Jul 2016 #100

That is just how I feel Mojorabbit Jul 2016 #111

How many more dead cops would be a acceptible loss Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #19

So what would have been your solution? romanic Jul 2016 #20

I do not know the details but could of the robot had a taser? awake Jul 2016 #30

They will figure out where he got the guns and ammo fairly easily. milestogo Jul 2016 #43

exactly awake Jul 2016 #56

Yeah it sounds gruesome. milestogo Jul 2016 #61

Yeah Faux pas Jul 2016 #21

The police had no choice Motley13 Jul 2016 #22

I agree to some of that. rockfordfile Jul 2016 #23

there should be some rules around the use of high explosives geek tragedy Jul 2016 #24

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Anything We Murdered Iraqis With Will Be Used Here billhicks76 Jul 2016 #28

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It's A Matter Of Time Before Drones billhicks76 Jul 2016 #41

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No - it's very muuch about weaponry, provided to local law enforcement, among others Ms. Toad Jul 2016 #92

I think you are being unnecessarily weirded out, but ... Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #29

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If you're 'sorry,' then you present your opinion with some doubt. Dreamer Tatum Jul 2016 #34

We've been using them on other country's children and families for so long, jtuck004 Jul 2016 #35

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I'm all for it reign88 Jul 2016 #36

If remote controlled bombs are acceptable then drones NoMoreRepugs Jul 2016 #37

If the public were not armed so heavily there would be no need for this. milestogo Jul 2016 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #50

True treestar Jul 2016 #79

Thanks, morningfog. HeartoftheMidwest Jul 2016 #40

Thanks, morningfog. The CCC Jul 2016 #55

If he was truly cornered, as reports say,.... HeartoftheMidwest Jul 2016 #64

Yeah, I agree with you... StraightRazor Jul 2016 #84

That's perfectly fine... pinboy3niner Jul 2016 #45

. Rex Jul 2016 #107

Weren't they explosives the shooter set up? Recursion Jul 2016 #46

That's not my understanding. morningfog Jul 2016 #51

I've mostly been in airports for 24 hours so I'm probably wrong Recursion Jul 2016 #52

The shooter was given time to give himself up. He refused and continued to fire on police officers.. Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #49

Robo Cop? Cryptoad Jul 2016 #53

I'm comfortable with whatever they had to do to kill the SOB. linuxman Jul 2016 #54

What Linuxman said. Succinct. To the point. Discomfort? Give me a break. (nfm) SunDrop23 Jul 2016 #63

I understand sarisataka Jul 2016 #57

I think they were improvising because they did not know what else to do. Ash_F Jul 2016 #59

Just read a tweet...... Teamster Jeff Jul 2016 #60

Considering his actions earlier, and continued threats, it was the right thing to do. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #62

If law enforcement is 100% sure that they have the right suspect in a mass Lance Bass esquire Jul 2016 #65

Well it may have been the FBI. They were there. Schema Thing Jul 2016 #67

I would have preferred a robot be used to deliver a gas of some kind passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #70

He was given a chance to turn himself in. He didn't want to live. redstateblues Jul 2016 #101

That doesn't change the fact passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #102

Knockout gases are mostly a hollywood invention. (Especially in an open air place.) X_Digger Jul 2016 #104

Yeah, porbably...it would be nice though passiveporcupine Jul 2016 #105

Gas is a little unpredictable... TeeYiYi Jul 2016 #110

I have concerns sulphurdunn Jul 2016 #71

As a response to someone who may have a suicide belt, it makes sense JCMach1 Jul 2016 #73

I hope the robot is ok Demonaut Jul 2016 #74

Last year, bvar22 Jul 2016 #77

The cops are supposed to be servants of the court.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #78

I'm not comfortable knowing there is a nut walking around tavernier Jul 2016 #80

K&R Every word of it. Nt NCTraveler Jul 2016 #81

It's a similar case to the Death Penalty rock Jul 2016 #82

It's quite alarming Calculating Jul 2016 #85

Neither am I. nt LWolf Jul 2016 #86

Police forces have a monopoly on violence? pintobean Jul 2016 #87

I suspect there is a great irony here. You know who uses bomb robots? The military. msanthrope Jul 2016 #88

My problem with it is the destruction of evidence. A lot of questions ecstatic Jul 2016 #91

Name one that wouldn't be answered. nt msanthrope Jul 2016 #94

Police don't have a monopoly on violence BainsBane Jul 2016 #95

In one speech, the Dallas police chief said his department was not going to militarize. merrily Jul 2016 #96

As long as the military and police disarm themselves first, gun control can happen. n/t Matt_R Jul 2016 #98

I am very thankful we have officers that are comfortable doing what I'm not to save lives of innocen FXSTD Jul 2016 #103

Agreed. sinkingfeeling Jul 2016 #106

They use bullets all the time. They kill you pretty dead too. Deader then dead. Rex Jul 2016 #109