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haele

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42. Being put in jail is not the same as being convicted and sent to prison.
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 03:05 PM
Jul 2016

Jail for most people is typically a holding cell.
People are put in jail all the time for simple possession, just like they are for drunk driving and other misdemeanors. And they stay in jail until the fine is paid, bail is posted, the filing of charges is dropped, or the arrestee is assigned a hearing. Sometimes for a few hours, sometimes for a few days.

In the meantime, their lives are slowly being taken apart. They miss work, and if they aren't in a critical position, lose their jobs. They have to identify on future employment paperwork and/or leases that they were arrested, if that's one of the questions on the form, along with the "drug use" question. War on Gangs, War on Drugs, y'know.
As part of my current employment, I had to let them know about any legal issues - as minor as traffic tickets - and I'm a f'n IT Engineer with 35 years of experience. (Two lapsed registration tickets, one overdue/overlooked parking fine on a rental car over a 20 year period.)

Some employers don't care if your arrest even went to trial, they just need to know if you were "arrested" to make the yes or no determination to hire.

So a disproportionate profiling effort that targets "scary colored people of low class" will ensure that there's a constant legal pressure, a "presumption of guilt" on the POC population - a population that is already suffering from societal isolation and have fewer normal opportunities for resources available to them. Pretty near every resource available to the poorer communities require jumping through all sorts of belittling hoops to prove they "earned" the right to citizenship. Profiling just makes it harder; one mistake that is typically ignored or forgiven in groups where the population is considered normal (i.e., middle class professionals who look like a media portrayal of "normal citizens&quot warrants harsh punishment on people who don't look an acceptable social stereotype.

Haele

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Selective enforcement and harsher sentences n/t uawchild Jul 2016 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #30
They are arrested at a higher rate. They are profiled at a higher rate. They are discriminated Rex Jul 2016 #2
They seem to be shot dead as suspects or killed in custody at a higher rate, too. merrily Jul 2016 #27
They are sadly seen as meat for the "For Profit" US prison system. They have to make those quotas. RKP5637 Jul 2016 #3
Blacks commit more crimes... romanic Jul 2016 #4
Or isn't there more crime committed in white neighborhoods Stellar Jul 2016 #21
I don't know. I have not studied crime statistics. But I think we have to be careful of merrily Jul 2016 #28
"Dear White America" loyalsister Jul 2016 #5
"Simple possession" is no longer a jailable offence former9thward Jul 2016 #7
Because her facts are correct and yours are wrong? Rex Jul 2016 #9
Ahh try again.... former9thward Jul 2016 #16
What facts? You produce nothing. Rex Jul 2016 #18
Name me someone in jail or simple possession and no other crime. former9thward Jul 2016 #19
Dave. Rex Jul 2016 #20
Specific name and specific jail former9thward Jul 2016 #24
Possession can get jail time... Lancero Jul 2016 #32
I deal in reality. former9thward Jul 2016 #37
And the reality is that you said it ISN'T a jailable offense. Lancero Jul 2016 #43
Why do you assume that is the only charge? Here's how NYC's infamous 'Stop and Frisk' policy Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #35
Yeah....That Poster is Clueless BronxBoy Jul 2016 #36
So now you are saying NYC puts people in jail for simple possession. former9thward Jul 2016 #39
You don't read very well do you.... BronxBoy Jul 2016 #40
You said I was clueless. former9thward Jul 2016 #41
Being put in jail is not the same as being convicted and sent to prison. haele Jul 2016 #42
Because that is what the sub-thread is about. former9thward Jul 2016 #38
Areas with low crime have a higher police presence Travis_0004 Jul 2016 #6
Has quite a bit to do with socio-economic factors Major Nikon Jul 2016 #8
Except that is not what your link says, did you actually read it? nt Rex Jul 2016 #11
I did. I don't think you understood it Major Nikon Jul 2016 #12
Yes I guess you don't understand the difference between consistent and inconsistent. Rex Jul 2016 #13
Nonsense Major Nikon Jul 2016 #15
NP. Don't edit the link...I like how you disproved your own reply. Rex Jul 2016 #17
Why would I do so? Major Nikon Jul 2016 #22
what if white guys in suits were actually ARRESTED for the fraud they commit daily? Skittles Jul 2016 #31
What if everyone was actually arrested for cheating on their taxes? Major Nikon Jul 2016 #33
the point is Skittles Jul 2016 #45
It's poverty as well madville Jul 2016 #10
a combination of both IMO Calculating Jul 2016 #14
They are over represented in murder statistics hack89 Jul 2016 #23
That's been the excuse used by racists forever and a day. n/t raven mad Jul 2016 #25
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #29
Do a poll asking people who have been caught with weed if they were arrested. L. Coyote Jul 2016 #34
Let's look at the FBI Crime Statistics Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #44
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