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12. Very similar to how Christians sin and aren't lesser Christians

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Fri Jul 15, 2016, 03:05 PM

Jul 2016

They still get into heaven (per the dogma)

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Why these radicals drink, watch porn etc. Some background [View all] agnostic102 Jul 2016 OP

Thanks for posting. I was thinking very similar things a few moments ago villager Jul 2016 #1

Interesting post. Skinner Jul 2016 #2

Thank you! agnostic102 Jul 2016 #3

Very similar issues in many US criminal gangs Mopar151 Jul 2016 #5

I can understand that fear... sarae Jul 2016 #56

I wonder how many hardcore fundamentalists of any stripe this aplies to. Mopar151 Jul 2016 #4

well just a clarification agnostic102 Jul 2016 #6

Yes. Islam is just religious, not racial, supremacism. Albertoo Jul 2016 #47

I just wrote much the same thing on another thread Warpy Jul 2016 #7

hey warpy agnostic102 Jul 2016 #8

I survived Catholic school Warpy Jul 2016 #10

hell maassive Jul 2016 #23

Welcome to DU Warpy Jul 2016 #52

Nope. Duppers Jul 2016 #63

Fundamentalist Baptist survivor here OriginalGeek Jul 2016 #26

Except that he got help for the truck. It was rented, and needed help to get past security Albertoo Jul 2016 #48

Right, dead civilians being his ticket to heaven after a life lived rottenly Warpy Jul 2016 #49

Latest news: now, Daesh claims the Nice attack, Albertoo Jul 2016 #51

Looks like a left hand/right hand situation to me Warpy Jul 2016 #55

From what I read, there's evidence of phone contact with radicals through intermediaries Albertoo Jul 2016 #58

His family said he just sent home a boatload of money. I suspect he got paid Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #54

Yup: money + a promise of paradise = a choleric goner becomes a ticking bomb Albertoo Jul 2016 #57

Great insight FLPanhandle Jul 2016 #9

Thank you. I did not know this. Your knowledge is a welcomed addition here. Welcome. Squinch Jul 2016 #11

Very similar to how Christians sin and aren't lesser Christians NightWatcher Jul 2016 #12

yes agnostic102 Jul 2016 #14

The sect I grew up in believed that OriginalGeek Jul 2016 #27

So, it sounds to me like Islam is still to blame for many of these terrorist attacks. Some beaglelover Jul 2016 #13

well agnostic102 Jul 2016 #16

I understand about more muslims being killed by the terrorists. But there is NO other religion beaglelover Jul 2016 #17

beagle agnostic102 Jul 2016 #20

Why did your Mom even take you to a stoning? WTF? beaglelover Jul 2016 #21

Hi beagle agnostic102 Jul 2016 #22

Thank you for the clarification. beaglelover Jul 2016 #36

Many White Supremacists identify as "Christians" Mopar151 Jul 2016 #28

As to why more "moderate Muslims" don't condemn the terrorist acts. Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #35

When I went to church they always tried to recruit people with vices. Initech Jul 2016 #15

The worse you were, the better you'll be. n/t Mopar151 Jul 2016 #25

I wonder if there's a parallel knightmaar Jul 2016 #18

I think this is an important point. Religion all too often uses shame to control. Research nolabear Jul 2016 #19

Thank You. bvar22 Jul 2016 #24

Agnostic, ex Muslim. Are you Cenk Uygur? liberalnarb Jul 2016 #29

So he is a typical religious hypocrite... lame54 Jul 2016 #30

Very interesting. So are there no easy routes to forgiveness? lostnfound Jul 2016 #31

Theologically, the only escape for hudud crimes is to suffer the penalty. Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #34

I think the radical preachers seek these types out and exploit them. Yo_Mama Jul 2016 #32

What are your impressions of Ibn Arabi, pangaia Jul 2016 #33

The Sufis revere Muhammad, whom the Sunna presents as less than perfect Albertoo Jul 2016 #50

Religion 101: Make people feel guilty for natural things that everyone already does. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #37

informative thank you treestar Jul 2016 #38

Interesting post. Thanks. DanTex Jul 2016 #39

Rec'd with thanks for sharing. babylonsister Jul 2016 #40

Thanks for your thoughts. Welcome to DU. Quayblue Jul 2016 #41

When will they stop teaching their children to believe they can redeem every sin with murder? LeftRant Jul 2016 #42

This is an excellent thread, agnostic102. Tobin S. Jul 2016 #43

Is redemption through jihadist martyrdom universally embraced by muslims? Martin Eden Jul 2016 #44

well innocent agnostic102 Jul 2016 #45

Thank you for this. Bookmarking Arazi Jul 2016 #46

Just curious: which country are you originally from? Iran? Albertoo Jul 2016 #53

Those factors within the religion, Ilsa Jul 2016 #59

Thank you! KT2000 Jul 2016 #60

And what is worse is - they hate our doggies!: jonno99 Jul 2016 #61

oh my god about dogs!! agnostic102 Jul 2016 #62

All religion is a poison to the human mind and condition Sam_Fields Jul 2016 #64

i have sadly agnostic102 Jul 2016 #65