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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts) Wed Dec 28, 2011, 03:03 PM Dec 2011

The latest issue at Civic Center (Renamed Freedom Plaza by Occupiers) is the flag [View all]

Well the latest issue at Civic Center Plaza (Freedom Plaza per Occupiers,) goes around the Flag. Why? Well the city says the pole is too thick... per a muni code going back to 1979. That is the legal excuse. This goes into the dynamic between protesters and governments, and it is not language specific. It is part of the arc. The government does not want to surrender it's symbols to those it considers to be rebels or not from an approved protest group. This is why Tea Party Members were allowed to carry weapons in public, it does not matter if they were loaded or not... you are not really considered a threat, I don't care that on your back is an AR-15.

The Occupiers are a whole different matter. They are perceived as a threat to the status quo. (In reality they are). So the current issue is about making them the other. Of course the other are un-American. We cannot have a flag with un-American people. It could be any group that is perceived as a threat by an established governmental structure around the world. But this is why we are seeing this. It is simple, and once one understands this, well it is easier to react to it.

By the way, I am including a photo of the flag in question...

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The latest issue at Civic Center (Renamed Freedom Plaza by Occupiers) is the flag [View all] nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 OP

I see they are up to their tricks again. However, OCCUPY will simply get stronger. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #1

Oh they do not stop nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #2

Good point about threat to the status quo booley Dec 2011 #3

Well the T Parties were working well withing the structure nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #4

When states or political celebrities want to fly the Confederate flag, they usually get shot down. randome Dec 2011 #5

Uh...you are comparing the slavery and death of thousands by civil war flag to Old Glory? aquart Dec 2011 #6

No, I was talking about flags. randome Dec 2011 #7

What does your argument have to do with the American Flag being erected? lunatica Dec 2011 #8

In fact, he is violating the San Diego Muni code in question nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #9

I'm not making any kind of argument, just pointing something out. randome Dec 2011 #11

I bet it would not nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #13

I agree that Teabaggers are more of a threat. randome Dec 2011 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #29

Not worth it... as far as I am concerned nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #30

I was in the midst of replying to your post when you deleted it. randome Dec 2011 #31

I get it, if it is the tea party nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #10

I didn't say it was fine, by any stretch of my words. randome Dec 2011 #12

Nah you said he was violating private property nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #14

I don't do 'conniptions'. randome Dec 2011 #16

What part of he was OUTSIDE in the PLAZA are you missing? nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #17

So what happened in this case? randome Dec 2011 #18

Well mull on this... no charges nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #19

Are you equating flying a Confederate flag with flying an American flag? JDPriestly Dec 2011 #21

Don't put words in my mouth. randome Dec 2011 #22

My god, residence IS AN ACTIVE PROTEST. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #23

You're entirely correct. randome Dec 2011 #25

You might not want to understand this nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #28

They are involved in an active protest. JDPriestly Dec 2011 #33

i'll bet you $10,000 that the "muni code" refers to how to display flags owned by the municipality. unblock Dec 2011 #20

Actually it has to do with the flag pole nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #24

unless there's more to it, there seems no governmental interest that beyond speech restriction unblock Dec 2011 #26

No serous, that is the Muni code... nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #27

Meta level... here is what is going on in Israel... (since our media will NOT cover it) nadinbrzezinski Dec 2011 #32