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At the time the world was happy the war was over yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #1

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How about the unnecessary horror and atrocities the fucking Japanese committed in the Philippines? CBGLuthier Aug 2016 #4

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Would it have veen better if they died with conventional bombs? Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #80

Guilted? Wrong war. We were shoved into WWII by the attack on Pearl Harbor Warpy Aug 2016 #34

Bahh, the fire bombing of Tokyo was a war crime too. CBGLuthier Aug 2016 #3

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There were also prominent figures inside and outside the military who said it was necessary Major Nikon Aug 2016 #13

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Your point is still speculation Major Nikon Aug 2016 #18

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You are going even farther down the road of speculation Major Nikon Aug 2016 #57

The same Halsey that made this quote? SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #69

Neither was a war crime Major Nikon Aug 2016 #15

Thank you for pointing that out. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #58

2 scenarios: EX500rider Aug 2016 #5

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They had not surrendered at the time of the bombing so Nimitz is incorrect. EX500rider Aug 2016 #20

Yes they showed how much they wanted to surrender in the previous battle of Okinawa... EX500rider Aug 2016 #28

There are hard numbers and facts to go with that speculation. sofa king Aug 2016 #83

where are you getting the figures for scenario a? niyad Aug 2016 #10

Here: EX500rider Aug 2016 #19

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Actually, no, not pure speculation... EX500rider Aug 2016 #45

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"comparing trained and supplied troops to untrained, poorly armed civilians aged 14 to 100...". EX500rider Aug 2016 #53

Any war where the line between civilians and combatants is blurred is going to be horrific XemaSab Aug 2016 #75

7 million civilians died in WWI, a war ginned up to try out new ways to kill people REP Aug 2016 #9

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When I see posts made on Armistice Day decrying the civilian deaths of WWI REP Aug 2016 #25

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Holy shit. What a STUNNING display of ignorance about the civilian victims of WWI REP Aug 2016 #68

One can argue sarisataka Aug 2016 #12

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"desperately searching for a way to surrender with honor' EX500rider Aug 2016 #21

They had nothing to lose Major Nikon Aug 2016 #31

Nuremberg trials started months after the Japanese surrendered. Nt hack89 Aug 2016 #40

The process started years before Germany surrendered Major Nikon Aug 2016 #67

So it was reasonable to assume they would not surrender hack89 Aug 2016 #73

Which some of them certainly had coming. EX500rider Aug 2016 #48

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And many of those same figure sarisataka Aug 2016 #24

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So several million Japanese starving to death during a blockade is somehow better? EX500rider Aug 2016 #50

+1,000 malaise Aug 2016 #16

Truman is a hero for dropping the bomb and ending that horrible war. tritsofme Aug 2016 #22

Truman was the GREATEST American HERO of the 20th Century because he used the bomb!!! MohRokTah Aug 2016 #27

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I ignore extremist propaganda. eom MohRokTah Aug 2016 #70

He won't see this REP Aug 2016 #72

Your reply speaks for many of us. Ilsa Aug 2016 #29

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Your slurs are utterly irrelevant to me and the millions of Americans who admire such a great man. tritsofme Aug 2016 #47

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He made a decision to not kill many more US & Japanese with a invasion.. EX500rider Aug 2016 #55

Ah, it's one of the DU High Holy Days. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #23

"DU High Holy Days" Ilsa Aug 2016 #30

Oh very well put Hekate Aug 2016 #65

Seems more subdued and late this year. roamer65 Aug 2016 #84

OFFS!!!! MohRokTah Aug 2016 #26

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200,000 "comfort women" are so easy to overlook Hekate Aug 2016 #66

"callous" - Adjective MohRokTah Aug 2016 #71

Haha! Oh DU! Never change! N/T actslikeacarrot Aug 2016 #32

The military came very close to overthrowing Hirohito when he decided to surrender. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #43

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it rebuts the claim that Japan would have meekly surrendered absent geek tragedy Aug 2016 #46

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"No, there was no ticking bomb." EX500rider Aug 2016 #59

Cool new weapon? XemaSab Aug 2016 #76

You cannot examine something like Hiroshima isolated from the context of the years of war which Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #54

yep you nailed it nt steve2470 Aug 2016 #78

How many Japanese civilians do you think would have died during an Allied invasion? tonyt53 Aug 2016 #56

The Rape of Nanking (sic) and the Bataan Death March were also war crimes. Hekate Aug 2016 #60

Unfortunately the Japanese brought that on themselves Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #61

This will be unpopular Motley13 Aug 2016 #62

We should have surrendered to the Axis powers. Dr. Strange Aug 2016 #63

200,000 "comfort women" are so easy to forget Hekate Aug 2016 #64

Ah the annual poutrage Paralympics whatthehey Aug 2016 #74

Conventional bombing was killing at least as many people if not more VMA131Marine Aug 2016 #77

you need to read what the Emperor of Japan had to say.... steve2470 Aug 2016 #79

This again? I guess it's that time of year. Captain Stern Aug 2016 #81

I understand your point. I've been to Japan 15 times, & visited peace park several times. CaptainTruth Aug 2016 #82

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