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steve2470

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79. you need to read what the Emperor of Japan had to say....
Sat Aug 6, 2016, 07:11 PM
Aug 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_Voice_Broadcast

TO OUR GOOD AND LOYAL SUBJECTS:

After pondering deeply the general trends of the world and the actual conditions obtaining in Our Empire today, We have decided to effect a settlement of the present situation by resorting to an extraordinary measure.

We have ordered Our Government to communicate to the Governments of the United States, Great Britain, China and the Soviet Union that Our Empire accepts the provisions of their Joint Declaration.[6]

To strive for the common prosperity and happiness of all nations as well as the security and well-being of Our subjects is the solemn obligation which has been handed down by Our Imperial Ancestors and which lies close to Our heart.

Indeed, We declared war on America and Britain out of Our sincere desire to ensure Japan's self-preservation and the stabilization of East Asia, it being far from Our thought either to infringe upon the sovereignty of other nations or to embark upon territorial aggrandizement.

But now the war has lasted for nearly four years. Despite the best that has been done by everyone – the gallant fighting of the military and naval forces, the diligence and assiduity of Our servants of the State, and the devoted service of Our one hundred million people – the war situation has developed not necessarily to Japan's advantage, while the general trends of the world have all turned against her interest.

Moreover, the enemy has begun to employ a new and most cruel bomb, the power of which to do damage is, indeed, incalculable, taking the toll of many innocent lives. Should We continue to fight, not only would it result in an ultimate collapse and obliteration of the Japanese nation, but also it would lead to the total extinction of human civilization. (italics, bolding and underlining added)

Such being the case, how are We to save the millions of Our subjects, or to atone Ourselves before the hallowed spirits of Our Imperial Ancestors? This is the reason why We have ordered the acceptance of the provisions of the Joint Declaration of the Powers.

We cannot but express the deepest sense of regret to Our Allied nations of East Asia, who have consistently cooperated with the Empire towards the emancipation of East Asia.

The thought of those officers and men as well as others who have fallen in the fields of battle, those who died at their posts of duty, or those who met with untimely death and all their bereaved families, pains Our heart night and day.

The welfare of the wounded and the war-sufferers, and of those who have lost their homes and livelihood, are the objects of Our profound solicitude.

The hardships and sufferings to which Our nation is to be subjected hereafter will be certainly great. We are keenly aware of the inmost feelings of all of you, Our subjects. However, it is according to the dictates of time and fate that We have resolved to pave the way for a grand peace for all the generations to come by enduring the unendurable and suffering what is unsufferable.

Having been able to safeguard and maintain the Kokutai, We are always with you, Our good and loyal subjects, relying upon your sincerity and integrity.

Beware most strictly of any outbursts of emotion which may engender needless complications, or any fraternal contention and strife which may create confusion, lead you astray and cause you to lose the confidence of the world.

Let the entire nation continue as one family from generation to generation, ever firm in its faith in the imperishability of its sacred land, and mindful of its heavy burden of responsibility, and of the long road before it.

Unite your total strength, to be devoted to construction for the future. Cultivate the ways of rectitude, foster nobility of spirit, and work with resolution – so that you may enhance the innate glory of the Imperial State and keep pace with the progress of the world.


August 14, 1945

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At the time the world was happy the war was over yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #2
How about the unnecessary horror and atrocities the fucking Japanese committed in the Philippines? CBGLuthier Aug 2016 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #8
Would it have veen better if they died with conventional bombs? Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #80
Guilted? Wrong war. We were shoved into WWII by the attack on Pearl Harbor Warpy Aug 2016 #34
Bahh, the fire bombing of Tokyo was a war crime too. CBGLuthier Aug 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #6
There were also prominent figures inside and outside the military who said it was necessary Major Nikon Aug 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #14
Your point is still speculation Major Nikon Aug 2016 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #33
You are going even farther down the road of speculation Major Nikon Aug 2016 #57
The same Halsey that made this quote? SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #69
Neither was a war crime Major Nikon Aug 2016 #15
Thank you for pointing that out. tonyt53 Aug 2016 #58
2 scenarios: EX500rider Aug 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #7
They had not surrendered at the time of the bombing so Nimitz is incorrect. EX500rider Aug 2016 #20
Yes they showed how much they wanted to surrender in the previous battle of Okinawa... EX500rider Aug 2016 #28
There are hard numbers and facts to go with that speculation. sofa king Aug 2016 #83
where are you getting the figures for scenario a? niyad Aug 2016 #10
Here: EX500rider Aug 2016 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #35
Actually, no, not pure speculation... EX500rider Aug 2016 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #49
"comparing trained and supplied troops to untrained, poorly armed civilians aged 14 to 100...". EX500rider Aug 2016 #53
Any war where the line between civilians and combatants is blurred is going to be horrific XemaSab Aug 2016 #75
7 million civilians died in WWI, a war ginned up to try out new ways to kill people REP Aug 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #11
When I see posts made on Armistice Day decrying the civilian deaths of WWI REP Aug 2016 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #36
Holy shit. What a STUNNING display of ignorance about the civilian victims of WWI REP Aug 2016 #68
One can argue sarisataka Aug 2016 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #17
"desperately searching for a way to surrender with honor' EX500rider Aug 2016 #21
They had nothing to lose Major Nikon Aug 2016 #31
Nuremberg trials started months after the Japanese surrendered. Nt hack89 Aug 2016 #40
The process started years before Germany surrendered Major Nikon Aug 2016 #67
So it was reasonable to assume they would not surrender hack89 Aug 2016 #73
Which some of them certainly had coming. EX500rider Aug 2016 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #37
And many of those same figure sarisataka Aug 2016 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #38
So several million Japanese starving to death during a blockade is somehow better? EX500rider Aug 2016 #50
+1,000 malaise Aug 2016 #16
Truman is a hero for dropping the bomb and ending that horrible war. tritsofme Aug 2016 #22
Truman was the GREATEST American HERO of the 20th Century because he used the bomb!!! MohRokTah Aug 2016 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #41
I ignore extremist propaganda. eom MohRokTah Aug 2016 #70
He won't see this REP Aug 2016 #72
Your reply speaks for many of us. Ilsa Aug 2016 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #39
Your slurs are utterly irrelevant to me and the millions of Americans who admire such a great man. tritsofme Aug 2016 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #52
He made a decision to not kill many more US & Japanese with a invasion.. EX500rider Aug 2016 #55
Ah, it's one of the DU High Holy Days. Dreamer Tatum Aug 2016 #23
"DU High Holy Days" Ilsa Aug 2016 #30
Oh very well put Hekate Aug 2016 #65
Seems more subdued and late this year. roamer65 Aug 2016 #84
OFFS!!!! MohRokTah Aug 2016 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #42
200,000 "comfort women" are so easy to overlook Hekate Aug 2016 #66
"callous" - Adjective MohRokTah Aug 2016 #71
Haha! Oh DU! Never change! N/T actslikeacarrot Aug 2016 #32
The military came very close to overthrowing Hirohito when he decided to surrender. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #44
it rebuts the claim that Japan would have meekly surrendered absent geek tragedy Aug 2016 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #51
"No, there was no ticking bomb." EX500rider Aug 2016 #59
Cool new weapon? XemaSab Aug 2016 #76
You cannot examine something like Hiroshima isolated from the context of the years of war which Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #54
yep you nailed it nt steve2470 Aug 2016 #78
How many Japanese civilians do you think would have died during an Allied invasion? tonyt53 Aug 2016 #56
The Rape of Nanking (sic) and the Bataan Death March were also war crimes. Hekate Aug 2016 #60
Unfortunately the Japanese brought that on themselves Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #61
This will be unpopular Motley13 Aug 2016 #62
We should have surrendered to the Axis powers. Dr. Strange Aug 2016 #63
200,000 "comfort women" are so easy to forget Hekate Aug 2016 #64
Ah the annual poutrage Paralympics whatthehey Aug 2016 #74
Conventional bombing was killing at least as many people if not more VMA131Marine Aug 2016 #77
you need to read what the Emperor of Japan had to say.... steve2470 Aug 2016 #79
This again? I guess it's that time of year. Captain Stern Aug 2016 #81
I understand your point. I've been to Japan 15 times, & visited peace park several times. CaptainTruth Aug 2016 #82
This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Aug 2016 #85
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