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Act_of_Reparation

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77. And I've now rebuked your distinction several times.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 07:48 PM
Aug 2016

Repeating the same half-assed, amateurish analysis several times doesn't make it one iota less half-assed or amateurish. You're not a psychologist. You're some random nobody with an internet connection and nothing better to do. You couldn't find a psychopath in a room full of nuns.

If that isn't enough to overcome your stubborn refusal to acknowledge the limitations of your expertise, let me break it down for you:

First:

Lack of empathy is only one trait indicative of psychopathy (or rather, antisocial personality disorder, as psychopathy is a collection of traits, not a recognized illness). Impulsiveness, criminality, aggression, manipulation, and an established pattern of irresponsibility are others.

One of these traits is not enough to diagnose. Two of these traits is not enough to diagnose. Several must be met, and then other more prevalent conditions that also present these symptoms must be excluded.

Are you qualified to make the distinction between a psychopath and paranoid schizophrenic? I'm guessing no.

Second:

The prevalence of antisocial personality disorder is quite low. The DSM-V puts it between 0.2% and 3.3%, a figure so unfathomably low that to suggest that even a significant minority of conservatives have it is just fucking absurd.

Third:

Again, you're not a professional. I'm guessing here -- and I think this is a fair assumption -- that you haven't had the opportunity to sit the majority of American conservatives down on your living room couch for a friendly chat. All you know about them is that they appear to have no empathy. Do they really have no empathy, or are they simply less empathetic than you'd like?

Guess we'll never know.

Fourth:

Mental illness has a very specific definition: a pattern of thought or behavior that inhibits one's socio-occupational functioning. Millions of conservatives function just fine in their day-to-day lives, ergo they are not mentally ill.

Fifth:

You're looking to clinical psychology to explain patterns of thought and behavior presented across a large, diverse population... which is a lot like trying to look at the sun through a fucking microscope.

Maybe pick a discipline with a tad more scope? Social psych for example? Sociology perhaps? No, they're not as straightfoward as clinical psych, and they don't come with a handly little book you can read online that makes you think you're qualified to talk about these things when you're clearly not, but I think you'll find they hold more explanative power in the longrun.

But what the fuck do I know.

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Yes - Obviously Yallow Aug 2016 #1
Belief in authority and rule of law should be classified as a ZombieHorde Aug 2016 #2
No loyalsister Aug 2016 #3
It eats their brains. It turns off the reasoning part of the brain. NightWatcher Aug 2016 #4
Go to opposite-world, aka Free-Republic. Old and In the Way Aug 2016 #5
Yuri Andropov would certainly approve... Marengo Aug 2016 #6
Are you familiar with the poster, ronnie624 Aug 2016 #13
Directed towards the author of the OP. As for the rest of DU, I suppose the responses... Marengo Aug 2016 #15
OP is the same poster outraged about shooting sports in the Olympics. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #19
Forget implying, I'll say it outright: Act_of_Reparation Aug 2016 #25
Big difference between political dissidents and conservatism Matrosov Aug 2016 #28
Most conservatives are simply anti-big government Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #31
Yet they love the idea of Constitutional amendments.. Matrosov Aug 2016 #32
Then you're saying petitioning for one's preferred social policy is a mentsl disorder. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #33
I'm saying the source of one's preferred social (and fiscal) policy might be a sign Matrosov Aug 2016 #35
You're seeking to label tens of millions of people mentally ill. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #37
Cool story, brah. I'm aware of the history of punitive psychology in the Soviet Union... Marengo Aug 2016 #48
At least you know your history Matrosov Aug 2016 #60
My impression is that you are attempting to classify dissent from anything other than... Marengo Aug 2016 #66
"Radical extreme repuliCONs," yes. lonestarnot Aug 2016 #7
Conservatism is a developmental disorder shadowmayor Aug 2016 #8
C=MI, baby....goes back over 15 years, when Salon table talk Gabi Hayes Aug 2016 #9
Let's go with all the above MrScorpio Aug 2016 #10
Absolutely not. Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #11
Of course not. It's not even well defined in this context. nolabear Aug 2016 #12
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+1 DawgHouse Aug 2016 #72
Says it all sarisataka Aug 2016 #14
No. Absurd. cali Aug 2016 #17
OFFS, no. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #18
No, but how about calling it a parasitic infection? Orrex Aug 2016 #20
I'm getting pretty goddamned tired of people cheapening mental illness. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2016 #21
Psychopathy is also a mental illness Matrosov Aug 2016 #27
Cool story. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2016 #30
Psychopathy is a personality disorder, which is not the same thing as a mental illness. Odin2005 Aug 2016 #78
Should conservatism be classified as a mental disorder? Hayduke Bomgarte Aug 2016 #22
Begs the question if it were to be, then what? Marengo Aug 2016 #23
Good question. ancianita Aug 2016 #64
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Think of re-education camps when you think of how the right would "fix" the Left's pathology. ancianita Aug 2016 #73
Mental health should never be politicized Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #24
No (nt) bigwillq Aug 2016 #26
Jesus Christ, listen to yourself. Brickbat Aug 2016 #29
I'm listening Matrosov Aug 2016 #34
Here's what you're not hearing: Act_of_Reparation Aug 2016 #36
A solid reply. I honestly cannot foresee a "rational" argument against it. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #39
What do you suggest be done sarisataka Aug 2016 #40
Ah, yes, so now I'm a Nazi.. Matrosov Aug 2016 #42
"I'm attacking them for their psychopathic drive to destroy everyone who is different." Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #43
Amazing, isn't it? sarisataka Aug 2016 #45
It would be humorous if the implications weren't so deadly. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2016 #46
And what hypocrisy it is. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2016 #47
Don't forget the Russian username Matrosov Aug 2016 #50
Yeah, woe is you. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2016 #51
I've now made a distinction several times Matrosov Aug 2016 #61
Are psychopaths not victims of mental illness? Marengo Aug 2016 #71
And I've now rebuked your distinction several times. Act_of_Reparation Aug 2016 #77
"Vile cancer of the nation" Dr. Goebbels, is that you? Marengo Aug 2016 #53
I truly wish you were sarisataka Aug 2016 #62
It always starts with the best of intentions sarisataka Aug 2016 #44
wenn es wie eine Ente quakt Marengo Aug 2016 #49
No BainsBane Aug 2016 #38
Um.............................. Initech Aug 2016 #41
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That is catchier sarisataka Aug 2016 #55
It's all in the packaging. Everyone loves clean, right? Marengo Aug 2016 #56
Hygiene is important sarisataka Aug 2016 #68
I read part of that work. I can perceive the allure of the concept to certain personality types. Marengo Aug 2016 #69
Or 'ideological cleansing'... friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #58
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Maybe we should classify only mental disorders as mental disorders. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #57
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Even the conservatism of the Constitutional signers was flawed. It was exclusionary, period. ancianita Aug 2016 #63
"Everybody who disagrees with me is crazy!" struggle4progress Aug 2016 #74
some of them are treestar Aug 2016 #75
This is actually the same type of thing UnFettered Aug 2016 #76
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