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niyad

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Law prof on Olympic coverage: "This headline is a metaphor for basically the entire world" [View all] pnwmom Aug 2016 OP

that, and the one where "nfl spouse wins. . . " and "phelps and african-american"--the sexism niyad Aug 2016 #1

Phelps getting 23 medals total is more then a single medal yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #4

The article wasn't about his total medals. It was about that day. And how many of those medals pnwmom Aug 2016 #5

And n that day, Phelps is a better known more popular athlete. Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #7

Phelps will get articles everyday for the rest of the Olympics and some after. yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #9

+1 treestar Aug 2016 #71

see post 11 and this: niyad Aug 2016 #13

Well GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #2

The article was about that day's performance, not his whole career. And Katie's 12 years younger. pnwmom Aug 2016 #8

Interesting - I guess Phelps was the only swimmer wearing those hi-tech suits that year? jmg257 Aug 2016 #24

American swimmers were wearing them, but they weren't being worn by swimmers all over the world. pnwmom Aug 2016 #26

Cool thanks for the info! nt jmg257 Aug 2016 #27

The suits were made available for free to all competitors who wanted to use them. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #45

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What will it take for you to withdraw a personal attack? pnwmom Aug 2016 #65

You're forgetting that many of the other countries' swimmers had signed contracts with pnwmom Aug 2016 #64

All swimmers should wear this Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #28

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That's your argument? GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #49

He's also a genetic freak... TipTok Aug 2016 #57

Phelps is 12 years older than Ledecky, and she's making a great start. pnwmom Aug 2016 #66

... lame54 Aug 2016 #84

The strokes and distances in swimming events offer many more opportunities . . . brush Aug 2016 #79

"how could he not amass more medals than anyone?"... lame54 Aug 2016 #86

So many strokes and distances to win in in swimming devalues . . . brush Aug 2016 #90

no devaluation here... lame54 Aug 2016 #91

Don't these wins prove that he never needed the suit?... lame54 Aug 2016 #83

He is a great swimmer nonetheless. But we don't know what his 2008 swims pnwmom Aug 2016 #85

we can take an educated guess lame54 Aug 2016 #87

see post 11 and this: niyad Aug 2016 #12

Agreed. deathrind Aug 2016 #14

Agree. It's not helping the cause one bit. nt Stubborn Aug 2016 #69

Wait a minute. AOL still exists? Orrex Aug 2016 #3

oh good heavens, I never thought about geocities. astonishingly, I have friends who actually niyad Aug 2016 #10

Phelps is better known than ledecky Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #6

and you are so missing the point. the sexism and racism of the olympic coverage has been blatant niyad Aug 2016 #11

But this is not one of those examples. Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #15

no, it is ANOTHER one of the ongoing sexism. how hard is that to understand? niyad Aug 2016 #17

that may be (definitely is) true but... lame54 Aug 2016 #88

She won the gold medal treestar Aug 2016 #19

She'll get the bigger headline against Phelps when she wins her 23rd gold davidn3600 Aug 2016 #22

I don't like the concept treestar Aug 2016 #33

This is his last Olympics ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #40

Phelps is the greatest Olympic athlete of all time. Of course he will get more attention. davidn3600 Aug 2016 #16

yawwwwwnnnnnn, and right on schedule. I really don't give a flying fig how great phelps is-- niyad Aug 2016 #18

How is it sexism to give the man who won 23 gold medals a bigger headline? davidn3600 Aug 2016 #29

you know, there is something so entertaining about mansplaining about what is, and isn''t, sexism. niyad Aug 2016 #32

Men have just as much right to comment on gender issues as women do davidn3600 Aug 2016 #36

men have been explaining, in their favour, for seveal thousand years. but, do keep trying, we niyad Aug 2016 #39

You know, it's funny.... davidn3600 Aug 2016 #44

And then there was this lovely headline: "Phelps shares historic night with African American.” pnwmom Aug 2016 #67

"Mansplaining." Nothing like slapping a cute label on condescension. GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #52

no, I am not wrong. the mansplaining denial of obvious, blatant sexism IS, however, no niyad Aug 2016 #72

On this particular day he got silver and she got gold treestar Aug 2016 #70

Media wants to sell... TipTok Aug 2016 #59

don't worry, the SJW of the intertubes will make damn sure Ledecky gets her due! snooper2 Aug 2016 #80

At a point where he got a silver treestar Aug 2016 #20

His number includes at least 8 in 2008 with a now banned high tech swimsuit. pnwmom Aug 2016 #21

So what. He won with rules in place at the time, and I would assume everybody wore those swimsuits. Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #23

You assume wrong. Swimmers all over the world did NOT wear these Speedo suits. And they were banned pnwmom Aug 2016 #25

It's irrelevent. Take out those 8 and he's the greatest. davidn3600 Aug 2016 #30

Katie won her first gold Olympic medal at 15 -- he won no medals at his first Olympics at that age. pnwmom Aug 2016 #34

And when she does, it will be in the headlines of the newpaper Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #37

Her golds this year deserved as much attention as his -- not to take a back seat to his silvers. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #38

Phelps made Olympic history with that win. Katie Ledecky won a gold medal. Calista241 Aug 2016 #74

In Beijing, Speedo offered them free to any competitors who wanted to use them. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #31

I'm not the one who put an asterisk by his name. That was done by the swimming association pnwmom Aug 2016 #35

You are trying to diminish the accomplishments of the GOAT, claiming he had an unfair Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #42

I am repeating the arguments of Phelps himself. Sorry that you disagree. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #46

You know, I seriously doubt you'd be questioning the accomplishments if Phelps were a woman davidn3600 Aug 2016 #47

No, you specifically said the US swimmers had the suits but not everybody else did. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #48

Not everyone wore the suits, and 2008-2009 was the beginning of an escalating swimsuit war. pnwmom Aug 2016 #60

I said everyone that wanted to could have, for free even. Rest assured the medal Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #61

It wasn't till the US team, all of whom were wearing the suits, set so many records that many pnwmom Aug 2016 #63

In the next Olympics the swimsuits are going to really high tech- fucking insane actually! snooper2 Aug 2016 #81

No, you're lying to try to prove a point. GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #53

Swimmers can win more medals than other athletes frazzled Aug 2016 #41

He still had to win them. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #43

Gymnasts can win just as many. GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #54

And he got 8 of those medals wearing a now-banned swimsuit, in a 2008 competition pnwmom Aug 2016 #68

Best of all time, pehaps not. Greater than Ledecky (at this moment) absolutely! Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #55

I would actually have to disagree with that GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #56

That's debatable. Being "The Fastest Man in the World" 3 Olympics in a row . . . brush Aug 2016 #93

Phelps is the greatest of all time. Everything he does is newsworthy Renew Deal Aug 2016 #58

nor will she, as long as this kind of blatant, obvious sexism continues. niyad Aug 2016 #73

Lochte never got the same attention as Phelps Renew Deal Aug 2016 #75

and the denials just keep on coming. as I said, keep trying, we need the laughs. niyad Aug 2016 #77

Indeed Renew Deal Aug 2016 #78

Don't look now but she's on the cover of the newest Sports Illustrated. 2 women and 1 man. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #62

You can find plenty of articles that talk only of Ledecky The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #76

Meh. Don't buy that newspaper then. yellowcanine Aug 2016 #82

It's unfortunate that this is the ONLY article written about this event and moment Blue_Adept Aug 2016 #89

It's a metaphor. People getting worked up over trivial non-sense and ignoring important issues Taitertots Aug 2016 #92