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33. I don't like the concept

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:20 PM

Aug 2016

That he's so damn important no one else matters even when they got a gold. Forget sexism. She should be of greater interest because she is the one on the rise. Him getting yet another medal is boring.

And as to the ancient Olympian he likely competed in many different event so mere number doesn't change the fact he was the greatest.

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Law prof on Olympic coverage: "This headline is a metaphor for basically the entire world" [View all] pnwmom Aug 2016 OP

that, and the one where "nfl spouse wins. . . " and "phelps and african-american"--the sexism niyad Aug 2016 #1

Phelps getting 23 medals total is more then a single medal yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #4

The article wasn't about his total medals. It was about that day. And how many of those medals pnwmom Aug 2016 #5

And n that day, Phelps is a better known more popular athlete. Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #7

Phelps will get articles everyday for the rest of the Olympics and some after. yeoman6987 Aug 2016 #9

+1 treestar Aug 2016 #71

see post 11 and this: niyad Aug 2016 #13

Well GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #2

The article was about that day's performance, not his whole career. And Katie's 12 years younger. pnwmom Aug 2016 #8

Interesting - I guess Phelps was the only swimmer wearing those hi-tech suits that year? jmg257 Aug 2016 #24

American swimmers were wearing them, but they weren't being worn by swimmers all over the world. pnwmom Aug 2016 #26

Cool thanks for the info! nt jmg257 Aug 2016 #27

The suits were made available for free to all competitors who wanted to use them. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #45

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What will it take for you to withdraw a personal attack? pnwmom Aug 2016 #65

You're forgetting that many of the other countries' swimmers had signed contracts with pnwmom Aug 2016 #64

All swimmers should wear this Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #28

Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #50

That's your argument? GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #49

He's also a genetic freak... TipTok Aug 2016 #57

Phelps is 12 years older than Ledecky, and she's making a great start. pnwmom Aug 2016 #66

... lame54 Aug 2016 #84

The strokes and distances in swimming events offer many more opportunities . . . brush Aug 2016 #79

"how could he not amass more medals than anyone?"... lame54 Aug 2016 #86

So many strokes and distances to win in in swimming devalues . . . brush Aug 2016 #90

no devaluation here... lame54 Aug 2016 #91

Don't these wins prove that he never needed the suit?... lame54 Aug 2016 #83

He is a great swimmer nonetheless. But we don't know what his 2008 swims pnwmom Aug 2016 #85

we can take an educated guess lame54 Aug 2016 #87

see post 11 and this: niyad Aug 2016 #12

Agreed. deathrind Aug 2016 #14

Agree. It's not helping the cause one bit. nt Stubborn Aug 2016 #69

Wait a minute. AOL still exists? Orrex Aug 2016 #3

oh good heavens, I never thought about geocities. astonishingly, I have friends who actually niyad Aug 2016 #10

Phelps is better known than ledecky Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #6

and you are so missing the point. the sexism and racism of the olympic coverage has been blatant niyad Aug 2016 #11

But this is not one of those examples. Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #15

no, it is ANOTHER one of the ongoing sexism. how hard is that to understand? niyad Aug 2016 #17

that may be (definitely is) true but... lame54 Aug 2016 #88

She won the gold medal treestar Aug 2016 #19

She'll get the bigger headline against Phelps when she wins her 23rd gold davidn3600 Aug 2016 #22

I don't like the concept treestar Aug 2016 #33

This is his last Olympics ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2016 #40

Phelps is the greatest Olympic athlete of all time. Of course he will get more attention. davidn3600 Aug 2016 #16

yawwwwwnnnnnn, and right on schedule. I really don't give a flying fig how great phelps is-- niyad Aug 2016 #18

How is it sexism to give the man who won 23 gold medals a bigger headline? davidn3600 Aug 2016 #29

you know, there is something so entertaining about mansplaining about what is, and isn''t, sexism. niyad Aug 2016 #32

Men have just as much right to comment on gender issues as women do davidn3600 Aug 2016 #36

men have been explaining, in their favour, for seveal thousand years. but, do keep trying, we niyad Aug 2016 #39

You know, it's funny.... davidn3600 Aug 2016 #44

And then there was this lovely headline: "Phelps shares historic night with African American.” pnwmom Aug 2016 #67

"Mansplaining." Nothing like slapping a cute label on condescension. GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #52

no, I am not wrong. the mansplaining denial of obvious, blatant sexism IS, however, no niyad Aug 2016 #72

On this particular day he got silver and she got gold treestar Aug 2016 #70

Media wants to sell... TipTok Aug 2016 #59

don't worry, the SJW of the intertubes will make damn sure Ledecky gets her due! snooper2 Aug 2016 #80

At a point where he got a silver treestar Aug 2016 #20

His number includes at least 8 in 2008 with a now banned high tech swimsuit. pnwmom Aug 2016 #21

So what. He won with rules in place at the time, and I would assume everybody wore those swimsuits. Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #23

You assume wrong. Swimmers all over the world did NOT wear these Speedo suits. And they were banned pnwmom Aug 2016 #25

It's irrelevent. Take out those 8 and he's the greatest. davidn3600 Aug 2016 #30

Katie won her first gold Olympic medal at 15 -- he won no medals at his first Olympics at that age. pnwmom Aug 2016 #34

And when she does, it will be in the headlines of the newpaper Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #37

Her golds this year deserved as much attention as his -- not to take a back seat to his silvers. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #38

Phelps made Olympic history with that win. Katie Ledecky won a gold medal. Calista241 Aug 2016 #74

In Beijing, Speedo offered them free to any competitors who wanted to use them. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #31

I'm not the one who put an asterisk by his name. That was done by the swimming association pnwmom Aug 2016 #35

You are trying to diminish the accomplishments of the GOAT, claiming he had an unfair Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #42

I am repeating the arguments of Phelps himself. Sorry that you disagree. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #46

You know, I seriously doubt you'd be questioning the accomplishments if Phelps were a woman davidn3600 Aug 2016 #47

No, you specifically said the US swimmers had the suits but not everybody else did. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #48

Not everyone wore the suits, and 2008-2009 was the beginning of an escalating swimsuit war. pnwmom Aug 2016 #60

I said everyone that wanted to could have, for free even. Rest assured the medal Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #61

It wasn't till the US team, all of whom were wearing the suits, set so many records that many pnwmom Aug 2016 #63

In the next Olympics the swimsuits are going to really high tech- fucking insane actually! snooper2 Aug 2016 #81

No, you're lying to try to prove a point. GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #53

Swimmers can win more medals than other athletes frazzled Aug 2016 #41

He still had to win them. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #43

Gymnasts can win just as many. GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #54

And he got 8 of those medals wearing a now-banned swimsuit, in a 2008 competition pnwmom Aug 2016 #68

Best of all time, pehaps not. Greater than Ledecky (at this moment) absolutely! Travis_0004 Aug 2016 #55

I would actually have to disagree with that GaYellowDawg Aug 2016 #56

That's debatable. Being "The Fastest Man in the World" 3 Olympics in a row . . . brush Aug 2016 #93

Phelps is the greatest of all time. Everything he does is newsworthy Renew Deal Aug 2016 #58

nor will she, as long as this kind of blatant, obvious sexism continues. niyad Aug 2016 #73

Lochte never got the same attention as Phelps Renew Deal Aug 2016 #75

and the denials just keep on coming. as I said, keep trying, we need the laughs. niyad Aug 2016 #77

Indeed Renew Deal Aug 2016 #78

Don't look now but she's on the cover of the newest Sports Illustrated. 2 women and 1 man. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2016 #62

You can find plenty of articles that talk only of Ledecky The2ndWheel Aug 2016 #76

Meh. Don't buy that newspaper then. yellowcanine Aug 2016 #82

It's unfortunate that this is the ONLY article written about this event and moment Blue_Adept Aug 2016 #89

It's a metaphor. People getting worked up over trivial non-sense and ignoring important issues Taitertots Aug 2016 #92