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12. Can you provide a link to the thread where you are outraged about this:

Thu Aug 18, 2016, 09:17 AM

Aug 2016

http://kneb.com/regional-news/judge-deliberating-on-detainment-of-material-witness-in-bridgeport-murder-case/

A Greeley, Colorado woman has been determined to be a material witness in the “body in a barrel” murder near Bayard late last year.

But District Judge Leo Dobrovolny Wednesday delayed a decision on whether 25 year old Felicia Talley needs to be permanently detained to ensure her appearance at the November trial of first degree murder suspect Zachary Mueller of Bridgeport.

During a hearing in Bridgeport Wednesday Dobrovolny admitted he “didn’t have a lot of alternatives” regarding the release of Talley.

Assistant Attorney General Doug Warner told the court Talley was “a risk” to appear for trial and exhibited behavior of “flight and avoidance” as authorities tried to find and interview her regarding the death of 33 year old Pedro Dominguez of Greeley. His body was found in a barrel near Bayard December 4th and Talley’s 24 year old boyfriend Zachary Mueller of Bridgeport has been charged with first degree murder in the case.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Are_grits_groceries Aug 2016 OP

brazil will gladly forgive any and all alleged issues for a nice cash donation nt msongs Aug 2016 #1

Sure, because White Americans and Europeans are the only one who have decency OBenario Aug 2016 #94

Most US & EU Central & South American trade agreements force those countries into abject poverty. TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #99

No, a judge did jberryhill Aug 2016 #2

Oh FFS! Are_grits_groceries Aug 2016 #3

Would you like someone blaming the US for some shit from Judge Roy Moore? jberryhill Aug 2016 #5

Oh FFS! I NEVER mentioned the judge's gender. Are_grits_groceries Aug 2016 #7

"Who knows who was involved in the decision?" jberryhill Aug 2016 #18

Well, the judge IS a government official. Adrahil Aug 2016 #6

First, it's "she" jberryhill Aug 2016 #8

Thanks. She. Adrahil Aug 2016 #9

They aren't charged with anything jberryhill Aug 2016 #10

Ordering passports seized? Adrahil Aug 2016 #11

Can you provide a link to the thread where you are outraged about this: jberryhill Aug 2016 #12

A murder vs a potential robbery? B2G Aug 2016 #14

A potential robbery in which the perps were said to be "dressed as police" jberryhill Aug 2016 #15

So if you report a crime in Brazil, you can end up being stuck there for who knows how long? LisaL Aug 2016 #17

You can get hung up in any country's legal system jberryhill Aug 2016 #19

How about if you vandalize a gas station and fight with a security guard? jberryhill Aug 2016 #20

Just getting home and reading this info from you now so thanks for posting earlier Person 2713 Aug 2016 #103

If you report a false crime, yes. Making up claims of crime is a crime in Brazil n/t OBenario Aug 2016 #95

That judge is an embarrassment for judges everywhere. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #4

The Olympics have been a success. cwydro Aug 2016 #13

By the measure of the anticipated clusterfuck, yeah jberryhill Aug 2016 #16

I don't judge Olympics by the opening show, but by how the games were run. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #23

Damn straight. roamer65 Aug 2016 #65

Agreed. Brazil has put on a great Olympics. The Opening ceremony was just as entertaining FSogol Aug 2016 #32

Are you so certain about that now? onenote Aug 2016 #31

Even if Lochte made it up, it is an abuse of power to arrest someone for embarrasing your country. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #34

Material witnesses. onenote Aug 2016 #51

There are no grounds to arrest "material witnesses," especially for a petty misdemeanor. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #110

And these louts are the definition of the Ugly Americans malaise Aug 2016 #107

Neither side looks good here. nt SunSeeker Aug 2016 #108

I don't know why they did it jcgoldie Aug 2016 #21

Even if Lochte made it up, why arrest these two guys? SunSeeker Aug 2016 #24

Obviously Brazil is trying to clear its reputation jcgoldie Aug 2016 #30

It is an abuse of power to arrest somone just to clear up a press story. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #36

they potentially broke the law - pulling them off the plane is perfectly appropriate DrDan Aug 2016 #37

Potentially? They were not charged with a crime. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #38

vandalized a gas station - paid off the owner - then filed a false report DrDan Aug 2016 #40

No charges yet. So no grounds to arrest and detain these two. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #42

sorry you don't like it - but you can be held while charges are being sorted out DrDan Aug 2016 #44

It is a violation of human rights. nt SunSeeker Aug 2016 #45

good try - but no it is not DrDan Aug 2016 #48

You couldn't possibly be more wrong. opiate69 Aug 2016 #50

You couldn't possibly be more wrong. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #111

No it isn't mythology Aug 2016 #53

But these two didn't file a police report or vandalize anything oberliner Aug 2016 #70

No, you don't arrest someone without charges. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #41

they could be placed in custody here - typically up to 72 hours - while the DrDan Aug 2016 #43

Cite the statute please. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #46

depends on the state - but . . . DrDan Aug 2016 #47

and here DrDan Aug 2016 #49

You still must have grounds. Otherwise, it is false arrest.nt SunSeeker Aug 2016 #54

And the police had the surveillance video from the store opiate69 Aug 2016 #55

Neither of the two arrested on the plane offered a "fairy tale" to anyone. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #112

that is what the time period is for - to determine which charges will be brought DrDan Aug 2016 #56

you have to have "probable cause" - which they have DrDan Aug 2016 #59

What crime by these two does this evidence show? SunSeeker Aug 2016 #80

they lied to the police DrDan Aug 2016 #81

They are not charged with that. nt SunSeeker Aug 2016 #83

they are still deciding the charges - hence kept in Brazil DrDan Aug 2016 #84

No one is even claiming or suggesting charges will be brought against these two. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #87

you should be listening to the press conferrence - the Police Chief just said DrDan Aug 2016 #88

Police Chiefs are always right. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #89

that ranks right there with Lochte's latest statement - the video provided to police DrDan Aug 2016 #91

The initial clip shown was edited, without the part where the swimmers were hit up for money. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #106

"one US Swimmer admitted others lied about robbery" DrDan Aug 2016 #90

There are no charges the two pulled off the plane lied to police. nt. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #92

there are no charges of anything yet - those are potentially coming DrDan Aug 2016 #93

There is no evidence Conger and Bentz lied to police, DrDan. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #97

You have a Brazilian law degree? Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #77

Do you? SunSeeker Aug 2016 #78

No, but I'm not the one making definitive statements about what is allowed/not allowed. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #79

Do you disagree that arrest without charges is a violation of human rights? nt SunSeeker Aug 2016 #82

that is just plain silly DrDan Aug 2016 #85

It depends on the potential charges. Ace Rothstein Aug 2016 #86

Sounds like the swimmers lied and the Brazilians acted entirely appropriately. Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #22

How is yanking these two swimmers off a plane "acting appropriately"? SunSeeker Aug 2016 #25

Even in the US, material witnesses to a crime can be and are detained. Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #26

They're in Brazil. They're subject to Brazilian law. stopbush Aug 2016 #27

More than a whiff of "affluenza" in this case. Nye Bevan Aug 2016 #33

Yep. Not to mention that the worst tme to concoct such a lie stopbush Aug 2016 #35

Exactly. It's Bullingdon club behavior and vile. suffragette Aug 2016 #66

lied to police? filed a false report? DrDan Aug 2016 #28

No one filed a police report. The "crime" Lochte and Feigen are accused of carries no jail time. SunSeeker Aug 2016 #113

Reports are they have the swimmers on security camera piechartking Aug 2016 #29

They also have video from the Olympic village of the wallet they said was stolen n/t Tempest Aug 2016 #39

How is that they lied about being robbed!?!?! uponit7771 Aug 2016 #58

they made it up . . . and filed a false report DrDan Aug 2016 #64

The reports are wrong. There is no video of them "kicking down a door." SunSeeker Aug 2016 #115

Filed false police reports. That's a crime. CBGLuthier Aug 2016 #62

No one "filed false police reports." SunSeeker Aug 2016 #114

100% agreed relayerbob Aug 2016 #52

So wait, they weren't robbed at all?! thx in advance uponit7771 Aug 2016 #57

It would appear not (nt) jcgoldie Aug 2016 #60

I never believed his story. cwydro Aug 2016 #67

Lochte told him mommy he was robbed Skittles Aug 2016 #109

The thing about justice in other countries is that they don't play by our rules liberal N proud Aug 2016 #61

filing a false police report is a crime both here and in Brazil DrDan Aug 2016 #63

But these two didn't do that oberliner Aug 2016 #71

apparently they made statements to the police substantiating the robbery DrDan Aug 2016 #72

Do you have a link to that? oberliner Aug 2016 #73

. DrDan Aug 2016 #74

also the paragraph following the one I provided DrDan Aug 2016 #75

is the death penalty harsh? Enrique Aug 2016 #98

Grits, I appreciate that your post is a fair one, with good questions rather suffragette Aug 2016 #68

Looks like the judge smelled something funny in their story Warpy Aug 2016 #69

Well this whole thing has turned into a clusterfuck. NaturalHigh Aug 2016 #76

The US swimmers turned this into an international incident HerrKarlMarx Aug 2016 #96

I agree, and wouldn't any normal person want to be on best behavior.. lostnfound Aug 2016 #100

Got it in one. truebluegreen Aug 2016 #101

They all owe an apology to the people of Rio. And after that , to other US Olympic participants IMO Person 2713 Aug 2016 #105

How many judges is that? madinmaryland Aug 2016 #102

Thank God this didn't happen on Cheney's watch Bucky Aug 2016 #104