That total person thing, Trotsky. (Reply #43)

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Tue Sep 6, 2016, 01:44 PM

Hortensis (51,682 posts)

43. That total person thing, Trotsky.

My acquaintances who shrug resignedly, and sometimes with satisfaction, at the need to murder 60 million people in Iran also care about their friends. Some are terrific friends, extremely thoughtful and giving.

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47 replies	Author	Time	Post
Pope Francis says neglecting the environment is a sin. [View all]	pnwmom	Sep 2016	OP
One issue I agree with him on...nt	Wounded Bear	Sep 2016	#1
I'll never figure out Christians who are happy to trash their god's creation...	hunter	Sep 2016	#2
My RW BIL is one of those.	Glassunion	Sep 2016	#9
Other things he says are sins:	trotsky	Sep 2016	#3
Catholics are 25% of the population -- an important swing vote. So it isn't pretending	pnwmom	Sep 2016	#4
And on the items I mentioned, they're important swing votes for Republicans.	trotsky	Sep 2016	#5
Not true. Pope Francis and the majority of Catholics do not prioritize	pnwmom	Sep 2016	#7
Absolutely true.	trotsky	Sep 2016	#8
As I said, American Catholics reject that view. Even those who consider abortion a sin,	pnwmom	Sep 2016	#13
Some American Catholics reject it. The majority do not.	trotsky	Sep 2016	#14
The majority of Catholics reject the Church's views on reproductive issues.	pnwmom	Sep 2016	#16
PNWMOM is supplying sources to support her premise, while you merely allege "facts."	LanternWaste	Sep 2016	#18
Oddly enough, my facts have links to surveys and data.	trotsky	Sep 2016	#19
You linked to a pre-convention Pew poll. I linked to an August ABC news poll.	pnwmom	Sep 2016	#22
Knee-jerk bigotry against a religion is as noxious as any other,	Hortensis	Sep 2016	#24
You can go ahead and like and admire a man who wants the following:	trotsky	Sep 2016	#38
Doesn't stick in my craw at all. I take extremely seriously	Hortensis	Sep 2016	#41
My female and LGBTQ friends/family mean more to me than platitudes.	trotsky	Sep 2016	#42
That total person thing, Trotsky.	Hortensis	Sep 2016	#43
Sorry, but I won't accept bigotry, or policies that devalue women.	trotsky	Sep 2016	#44
But, IMO you DO accept bigotry in Francis's case, the	Hortensis	Sep 2016	#45
It's not bigotry to oppose a bigot.	trotsky	Sep 2016	#46
You aren't trying to understand. The bigotry	Hortensis	Sep 2016	#47
Look again	JonLP24	Sep 2016	#37
In other words:	Act_of_Reparation	Sep 2016	#20
IOW, Catholics, based on a variety of concerns, are swinging away from Trump and toward Clinton.	pnwmom	Sep 2016	#21
In other words:	Act_of_Reparation	Sep 2016	#25
The Pope is strongly pro-environment, and pro- the poor, and pro- refugee and immigrant.	pnwmom	Sep 2016	#26
They remain popular positions nevertheless.	Act_of_Reparation	Sep 2016	#27
There is far more emphasis in the typical Catholic Sunday service on issues regarding the poor than	pnwmom	Sep 2016	#28
I don't find personal experience very compelling.	Act_of_Reparation	Sep 2016	#30
That's the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, not "The College of American Bishops".	rug	Sep 2016	#36
I guess his progressive cred bounce from Sanders' visit a few months back is pretty much over.	LanternWaste	Sep 2016	#17
U.S. Catholics are a very diverse group, similar to Jewish people.	hunter	Sep 2016	#35
Have I ever claimed otherwise?	trotsky	Sep 2016	#39
If one considers "dominion" to mean stewardship, he has a point...	malthaussen	Sep 2016	#6
Post #9	Glassunion	Sep 2016	#10
i was always taught stewardship.....as a prot must add that	dembotoz	Sep 2016	#40
Oh, good.	LittleDuckie	Sep 2016	#11
LOL	trotsky	Sep 2016	#12
With Pope Frank	magicnpoetry	Sep 2016	#15
Pope Francis is right again.	Hieronymus	Sep 2016	#23
A broken clock is right twice per day, so is Francis	Albertoo	Sep 2016	#29
"A willful blindness to the rise of Islamism"? The Church has been concerned about that	pnwmom	Sep 2016	#31
In medieval times, maybe. Francis? No.	Albertoo	Sep 2016	#32
I've been hearing warnings about it since Pope John Paul. n/t	pnwmom	Sep 2016	#34
I find it hard to take anything a pope says seriously on the environment.	roamer65	Sep 2016	#33

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