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RZM

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21. Hell no. It's better than what we had

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Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:31 PM

Jun 2012

And striking it down would return to the status quo and begin another (losing) battle for something more. Policy is baby steps. It would be nice if we could will single payer into existence, but that's not how the world works. We got this and I'm happy to accept it. Fuck anybody who wants to throw away what we have to make a statement about what we want and then end up with nothing. That's not how society progresses.

You get something, you accept it, and then you agitate for more. You don't throw away your accomplishments in order to prove to everybody that something else is better. You prove that something else is better by saying thank you for what you get and then resuming your quest for that better thing, without jeopardizing what you've already accomplished.

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Fess up! Who here wants "Obamacare" repealed or overturned by SCOTUS? [View all] banned from Kos Jun 2012 OP

Not me. My wife has a pre-existing condition. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #1

No way, my only complaint is it isn't single payer SoutherDem Jun 2012 #2

Single payer would be better but was politically impossible. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #5

I have a pre-existing condition as well, and I don't like it one bit.. dadchef Jun 2012 #39

They could make it a tax instead. Would that be better? Kablooie Jun 2012 #49

Of course a funding through the tax mechanism would be preferred. dadchef Jun 2012 #56

To be honest I don't really know much about it. There has been so much doc03 Jun 2012 #3

Key points Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #11

Everyone must purchase insurance? At what cost? What about the so doc03 Jun 2012 #15

"Death panels" are nothing but a Republican talking point. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #16

If you are working poor with a job that does not provide insurance, right now, JDPriestly Jun 2012 #35

Death panels are a Palin invention. An idea she invented out of pure hot air. Kablooie Jun 2012 #51

I really wish the Unrec button was still around. Nt xchrom Jun 2012 #4

why don't you just answer the question? nt dionysus Jun 2012 #10

Read Prosense's response below.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #41

Two things: ProSense Jun 2012 #6

The law has enabled my brother to get coverage for his wife, they won't lose their home if she gets peacebird Jun 2012 #7

It won't help me at all and will even cost me about a $1000. aikoaiko Jun 2012 #8

"It won't help me". Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #13

You're missing my point. aikoaiko Jun 2012 #24

I know people who were diagnosed with cancer. None of them expected it. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #36

'democrat leaning people'! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #9

Good catch MiniMe Jun 2012 #30

Wanted single payer. But this will do Ishoutandscream2 Jun 2012 #12

Anyone who wants to see it repealed is either short sighted or a cold hearted bastard.... phleshdef Jun 2012 #14

If Medicare for all is not possible, then leave it be for now... nt Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #17

"statistics show" - whose? NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 #18

I do have major problems with the individual mandate. white_wolf Jun 2012 #19

But with the mandate comes financial assistance so that most people can afford the insurance. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #37

Not me--and it doesn't affect me PERSONALLY if it does get repealed. MADem Jun 2012 #20

Hell no. It's better than what we had RZM Jun 2012 #21

Simple: We have a "federal" government, NOT a "national" government. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #22

^^^ THIS ^^^ MadrasT Jun 2012 #64

I believe giving Congress the power to compel a citizen to purchase a for profit product TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #23

agreed BOG PERSON Jun 2012 #59

NO spanone Jun 2012 #25

KEEP IT!!! I will personally be able to afford medical insurance, and will kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #26

Having looked at the details of how it would work, I definitely support it bhikkhu Jun 2012 #27

I think nybigtree Jun 2012 #28

Not me, my son now gets insurance coverage until he turns 26 steve2470 Jun 2012 #29

It wouldn't bother me too much. bluedigger Jun 2012 #31

The individual mandate is wrong. dkf Jun 2012 #32

"Fess up!?" Is this a push poll? blue neen Jun 2012 #33

No. I want to keep it. I would prefer single payer. We lived in Europe for a number of years JDPriestly Jun 2012 #34

Progressive? No. kctim Jun 2012 #38

The mandate is very much needed. justgamma Jun 2012 #40

Universal = Mandatory lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #42

Not at all. boxman15 Jun 2012 #43

I know that it's been something that we've wanted for ages Lawlbringer Jun 2012 #44

Not me !! davekriss Jun 2012 #45

I want the mandate gone. nt Raine Jun 2012 #46

Not guilty, but I do want single payer Populist_Prole Jun 2012 #47

Absolutely not. Kablooie Jun 2012 #48

I want it to stay marlakay Jun 2012 #50

I do not believe this is an optimal solution... sendero Jun 2012 #52

What truly terrifies me about repeal-- eridani Jun 2012 #53

I'm not happy with it, but B Calm Jun 2012 #54

what happens if you do not or can not pay if insurance is mandated? IamK Jun 2012 #55

Those who cannot afford are still covered GarroHorus Jun 2012 #57

No Easy Answer to the question KatChatter Jun 2012 #58

I was very disspointed by "Obamacare," but I would not get rid of it without ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #60

it's better than nothing, right? Quantess Jun 2012 #61

I do not want the law struck down etherealtruth Jun 2012 #62

Have we forgotten this is Romneycare? Ron Obvious Jun 2012 #63