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TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
23. I believe giving Congress the power to compel a citizen to purchase a for profit product
Fri Jun 15, 2012, 09:35 PM
Jun 2012

is pretty much fucking insane. Worse most Americans will be compelled by the government to buy that for profit product at the discretion of their employer.

Not only would we be obligated to buy from the company store but the company will do the shopping and further shop for the dictated product.

The argument is extremely broad and essentially creates unlimited government which by definition removes power from the people (the many) to our elected creatures of "the stakeholders" (the few) in a game of craps with prize being GingrichCare.

All the personal anecdotes in the world about pay to play features that should be default won't sell me on the scam the overall law is leaving the entire failed and wasteful existing system firmly in place down to the fucking anti-trust exemption and giving perhaps the most predatory industry in the world a key to the treasury creating a whole new too big to fail industry so I certainly hope that in a random act of sanity this crazy provision will be struck and the rest of the bill be left but my expectation is the fascist court will uphold the fascist law.

I don't care about all the phony ass moralizing either regardless of how much hearts are in the right place either because the entire design is built ground up to fuck us, empower the insurance cartel, and beat back any attempts at substantive structural reform be it market based or socialistic or any thing else.
Any bit of good will be extracted from other "small people" for big profits and power over the populace by the cartel and employers.

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Not me. My wife has a pre-existing condition. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #1
No way, my only complaint is it isn't single payer SoutherDem Jun 2012 #2
Single payer would be better but was politically impossible. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #5
I have a pre-existing condition as well, and I don't like it one bit.. dadchef Jun 2012 #39
They could make it a tax instead. Would that be better? Kablooie Jun 2012 #49
Of course a funding through the tax mechanism would be preferred. dadchef Jun 2012 #56
To be honest I don't really know much about it. There has been so much doc03 Jun 2012 #3
Key points Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #11
Everyone must purchase insurance? At what cost? What about the so doc03 Jun 2012 #15
"Death panels" are nothing but a Republican talking point. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #16
If you are working poor with a job that does not provide insurance, right now, JDPriestly Jun 2012 #35
Death panels are a Palin invention. An idea she invented out of pure hot air. Kablooie Jun 2012 #51
I really wish the Unrec button was still around. Nt xchrom Jun 2012 #4
why don't you just answer the question? nt dionysus Jun 2012 #10
Read Prosense's response below.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #41
Two things: ProSense Jun 2012 #6
The law has enabled my brother to get coverage for his wife, they won't lose their home if she gets peacebird Jun 2012 #7
It won't help me at all and will even cost me about a $1000. aikoaiko Jun 2012 #8
"It won't help me". Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #13
You're missing my point. aikoaiko Jun 2012 #24
I know people who were diagnosed with cancer. None of them expected it. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #36
'democrat leaning people'! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #9
Good catch MiniMe Jun 2012 #30
Wanted single payer. But this will do Ishoutandscream2 Jun 2012 #12
Anyone who wants to see it repealed is either short sighted or a cold hearted bastard.... phleshdef Jun 2012 #14
If Medicare for all is not possible, then leave it be for now... nt Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #17
"statistics show" - whose? NRaleighLiberal Jun 2012 #18
I do have major problems with the individual mandate. white_wolf Jun 2012 #19
But with the mandate comes financial assistance so that most people can afford the insurance. JDPriestly Jun 2012 #37
Not me--and it doesn't affect me PERSONALLY if it does get repealed. MADem Jun 2012 #20
Hell no. It's better than what we had RZM Jun 2012 #21
Simple: We have a "federal" government, NOT a "national" government. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #22
^^^ THIS ^^^ MadrasT Jun 2012 #64
I believe giving Congress the power to compel a citizen to purchase a for profit product TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #23
agreed BOG PERSON Jun 2012 #59
NO spanone Jun 2012 #25
KEEP IT!!! I will personally be able to afford medical insurance, and will kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #26
Having looked at the details of how it would work, I definitely support it bhikkhu Jun 2012 #27
I think nybigtree Jun 2012 #28
Not me, my son now gets insurance coverage until he turns 26 steve2470 Jun 2012 #29
It wouldn't bother me too much. bluedigger Jun 2012 #31
The individual mandate is wrong. dkf Jun 2012 #32
"Fess up!?" Is this a push poll? blue neen Jun 2012 #33
No. I want to keep it. I would prefer single payer. We lived in Europe for a number of years JDPriestly Jun 2012 #34
Progressive? No. kctim Jun 2012 #38
The mandate is very much needed. justgamma Jun 2012 #40
Universal = Mandatory lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #42
Not at all. boxman15 Jun 2012 #43
I know that it's been something that we've wanted for ages Lawlbringer Jun 2012 #44
Not me !! davekriss Jun 2012 #45
I want the mandate gone. nt Raine Jun 2012 #46
Not guilty, but I do want single payer Populist_Prole Jun 2012 #47
Absolutely not. Kablooie Jun 2012 #48
I want it to stay marlakay Jun 2012 #50
I do not believe this is an optimal solution... sendero Jun 2012 #52
What truly terrifies me about repeal-- eridani Jun 2012 #53
I'm not happy with it, but B Calm Jun 2012 #54
what happens if you do not or can not pay if insurance is mandated? IamK Jun 2012 #55
Those who cannot afford are still covered GarroHorus Jun 2012 #57
No Easy Answer to the question KatChatter Jun 2012 #58
I was very disspointed by "Obamacare," but I would not get rid of it without ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #60
it's better than nothing, right? Quantess Jun 2012 #61
I do not want the law struck down etherealtruth Jun 2012 #62
Have we forgotten this is Romneycare? Ron Obvious Jun 2012 #63
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