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In reply to the discussion: This message was self-deleted by its author [View all]mythology
(9,527 posts)and there isn't a solid preexisting relationship, my zipper stays up. Not because I fear a rape allegation, but because I don't ever want to put a woman in a position to have to even consider whether or not it was rape and even more so I don't want to be in a position of considering if I raped somebody. I carry around enough guilt for things I didn't do, I don't need to carry around guilt for something I did.
I think if you have a preexisting relationship, you have more leeway in terms of knowing when your partner is consenting, but I think in a one night stand/hookup situation, it's better to err on the side of caution. Get the other person's contact information and catch up with them later when they are sober.
There is a difference between a woman who's had a beer and can carry on a conversation, is aware of things and a woman who's done too many keg stands and needs to hold the wall to stand up. In the former, if you both want sex, have at it. In the latter, make sure she gets home, preferably with a friend in case she starts vomiting and can't take care of herself.
Or if your son would like a simpler rule he can always ask himself "What would Brock Turner do?" and that will give him an excellent guide of what not to do.