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63. The Republican Clowns are out
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 10:39 AM
Oct 2016

Compounded by media comments saying this is not very important debate, Vice President debating is not that important. My view is that highly and likely it is and the moderator unknown to me is of the so called “Bottom Line People”. The Washington post declares Pence the winner. We know he is not...

In my view Kane knew this for immediate reaction, yep this is fixed for Trump. So Kane jumped in.

From my view the comments about the debate don’t reflect language truth, the debate on Pence side loaded relating to deep inward feelings rather than the intellect or truth of the issues.

In other words, Pence revealed his character in the true Republican image to smoothly lie within generalities as nothing specific, this visceral gut type of debating is what the Republican base is about.

Any facts that were made by Kane, Pence easily shifted, Kane making a list of true statements made by Trump, yet Pence turning them as insults by Kane.

Respectfully Kane supported Clinton especially within that tax record issue in that Trump did not show his taxes or pay taxes for many decades.

It was an eye opener for me not knowing about such a tax shelter does exist. Moreover, within my personal research about the Bush family in that business deals were made with enemy or terrorist that protracts back to Prescott Bush scaling to George W. Bush with close family relations with Arab money the news media to this day ignore for good reason, because it’s definitely conflict of interest related to profiteering to the bottom line, and basic treason.

Thinking through this tax issue raises the question about bailouts being totally unfair beside who else used this tax advantage, is it common practice or is Trump the genius that found a loop hole that nobody else knows existed. Yet claims Hillary knows it…and should change it?

This tax scheme seems essentially to be some old world feudal system that punks the public, a sort of carnival language within the Congress and Senate that isolates the layperson, only the clowns in the big top know the secret tax code. A difficult chore, Hillary has to fess up too…

Then in a political sense Trump threw the one percent under the bus revealing such a secret tax code that the average American does not know making Trump himself more appealing in his base.

Since Trump is extremely more slippery than a sinusoidal wave punching through the cosmos, he can make anyone believe there is no God.

With that said it surprises me in that the religious right supports Trump.

Pence being of that religious character lost the issues violating the first amendment with LBGTQ, or abortion, with the women’s right of choice, same sex love, or transgenders, were a personal government character being the decider is unacceptable.

Essential for both issues, have a government decider within personal domain of one’s sole is big government. That new genius tax loop hole is the same, yet within the secret carnival language of Congressional and Senate code that marks-up secrets isolating the average America is the problem and Hillary needs to address it.

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If he had not interrupted, the lies would have gone unchallenged liberal N proud Oct 2016 #1
you get your time and challenge..and insist on MORE time as the lies can't go unresponded beachbum bob Oct 2016 #3
The moderator was lousy, but sitting on your hands saying nothing suggests agreement. MADem Oct 2016 #10
Yes. the moderator did a poor job of controlling things. maddiemom Oct 2016 #18
Exactly! demosincebirth Oct 2016 #31
What I saw was Pence who would not stop talking at the end of he's allotted time liberal N proud Oct 2016 #11
I totally agree! eom Ligyron Oct 2016 #13
That is why the format sucked exboyfil Oct 2016 #19
very true treestar Oct 2016 #24
Pence's strategy was to eat up the clock vlyons Oct 2016 #32
Talking past one's allotted time is one thing; jamesatemple Oct 2016 #35
I swear, Republican politicians and pundits must take classes.... Rorey Oct 2016 #42
Pence would say "Let me finish my sentence" and then ramble on for a paragraph. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2016 #64
welcome to du. you are quite correct--because they all operate the same way. niyad Oct 2016 #65
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2016 #57
I was waiting for someone blue cat Oct 2016 #9
Bingo wryter2000 Oct 2016 #23
I never go with interupting...never looks classy beachbum bob Oct 2016 #2
Pence was trying to gishgallop away from the truth. Sometimes, hauling out the MADem Oct 2016 #6
Exactly. Nt Else You Are Mad Oct 2016 #8
Here's one small example of when restraint would have been the part of valor citood Oct 2016 #36
The Pentagon is in Arlington VA. The only thing in "DC" is the mailing address. MADem Oct 2016 #47
None of that matters citood Oct 2016 #73
I doubt that. MADem Oct 2016 #74
Who exactly do you think is the audience for a veep debate? citood Oct 2016 #75
Your concern is touching. MADem Oct 2016 #77
FFS...If there were to be a 2nd VP debate, Kaine should do nothing different? citood Oct 2016 #78
Correct. nt MADem Oct 2016 #79
Nothing different, if anything, assert himself even louder at Pence's lies. Raster Oct 2016 #86
I agree completely. maddiemom Oct 2016 #16
Sorry to disagree but mdbl Oct 2016 #21
I am a long time liberal, same with my wife and found it less than classy kaine's interruptions beachbum bob Oct 2016 #33
This is politics. Bare-knuckled and all. Kaine did an excellent job of shoving Pence into the ropes BlueCaliDem Oct 2016 #56
if you prefer a debate where one side calmly never answers the mdbl Oct 2016 #90
100% agreed relayerbob Oct 2016 #40
it's too bad that Kaine didn't point out the worst of Pence mdbl Oct 2016 #91
Kaine wasn't supposed to help himself. He was supposed to help Hillary. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #68
I agree with you--if the fact checkers do their jobs, instead of making this a beauty contest, like MADem Oct 2016 #4
I agree with you. I think Tim Kaine did great. livetohike Oct 2016 #5
I am glad Kaine interrupted. Else You Are Mad Oct 2016 #7
The complainers didn't complain HAB911 Oct 2016 #12
In football... Aviation Pro Oct 2016 #14
Great idea! joshdawg Oct 2016 #17
My daughter said they need those shock collars some people use to train dogs. Petrushka Oct 2016 #87
I missed the first few minutes RussBLib Oct 2016 #15
Does it get any better? I DVRd it but stopped watching after the first 15 minutes TrogL Oct 2016 #20
Yessssssssssssss! lillypaddle Oct 2016 #22
Good for Kaine Saviolo Oct 2016 #25
Kaine was protecting the American Public from the BS coming out the bigot sitting turbinetree Oct 2016 #26
I wish Kaine would have waited patiently and just said, "What a bunch of malarky" world wide wally Oct 2016 #27
Ha, ha!! PatSeg Oct 2016 #29
His interruptions were deliberate The Wizard Oct 2016 #28
I agree. Lies should always be immediately interrupted and corrected. Nitram Oct 2016 #30
+1000. nt ecstatic Oct 2016 #38
i feel it was necessary as well. retrowire Oct 2016 #34
I disagree relayerbob Oct 2016 #37
And yet many here on DU support Trump who is both unprofessional and petty Democat Oct 2016 #41
So, fuck them relayerbob Oct 2016 #43
He didn't look "unprofessional and petty" to me. Rorey Oct 2016 #46
So, if you went into work ... relayerbob Oct 2016 #52
That's a false equivalence. In *this* situation--a time limited tv program, BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2016 #82
There was nothing petty about Kaine's performance. Truth is never petty. BigBearJohn Oct 2016 #48
What part of relayerbob Oct 2016 #55
Telling the truth can hardly be considered "going low." BigBearJohn Oct 2016 #59
No. Kaine DENIED Pence the opportunity to use him "lecturing" MADem Oct 2016 #49
As long as you're ok relayerbob Oct 2016 #54
Because kissing a lying bully's ass is the way to convince them? MADem Oct 2016 #61
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #62
I'm with her, and I'm with YOU! WinkyDink Oct 2016 #39
KNR Thank you! Lucinda Oct 2016 #44
Tim Kaine won, end of story! sanduca Oct 2016 #45
All Tim did was SCVDem Oct 2016 #50
Well there is that eh. Don't lie and you won't get corrected. AmericanActivist Oct 2016 #72
Thank you!! gopiscrap Oct 2016 #51
+1000! Pence was trying to steamroll the moderator Greybnk48 Oct 2016 #53
Yeah, right Marc2010 Oct 2016 #58
As Pence tried to reinvent Trump, Kaine was marvelous bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #60
How many times have we heard BlueMTexpat Oct 2016 #88
The Republican Clowns are out polynomial Oct 2016 #63
Sure, democrats loved his performance, everyone else thought he was constantly interrupting.... frankieallen Oct 2016 #66
All the Pence soundbites are now poisoned... with truth. Not Sure Oct 2016 #67
Big HONKIN' K&R BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #69
was at a hrc watch party last night and the folks there were horrified dembotoz Oct 2016 #70
I'm with the critics on this one. WillowTree Oct 2016 #71
I would have been fine if Kaine had punched Pence out, but I do think a true undecided who really Hoyt Oct 2016 #76
Thanks for your o.p. AA. Recced. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #80
I would like to see that analysis also. I love your AmericanActivist Oct 2016 #83
My wife doesn't enjoy my deployment of it that much. But at least neighbors haven't Mc Mike Oct 2016 #84
Trump won by dozens of interruptions. Trump also won on lies, one per interruption to Kaine's zero. Coyotl Oct 2016 #81
In some ways, this is Kaine's role. murielm99 Oct 2016 #85
Hillary's politeness made it clear that Trump was the asshole IronLionZion Oct 2016 #89
Let's review this thread through the short lens of CURRENT EVENTS.... MADem Oct 2016 #92
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