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TrogL

(32,828 posts)
Tue Oct 18, 2016, 07:11 AM Oct 2016

I think it's time to start talking about Hitler [View all]

It's time to suspend Godwin's law.

I'm 61 years old. I get to talk about Hitler. I was born in 1955, 10 years after Hitler died. 5 years later, when I was capable of understanding such things, memories were still fresh.

My father did not talk his way past a medical deferment (asthma) until it was too late to see action, but he did mention missing work the day the munitions factory blew up, killing several of his friends.

Our maid was Austrian and still emotionally shattered over losing friends and family in the war and being shunned for being on "the wrong side".

I visited Europe in the 70s and got to see the destruction first hand even years later. Statues in downtown London still had bullet holes. Cologne Cathedral was still in ruins. I saw The Wall.

It's happening again.

Having seen what I've seen, do you have any idea how terrified I am?

An authoritarian leader who keeps a copy of Hitler's speeches in his bedside table, quoting from The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, is encouraging his authoritarian, "facts don't matter" followers to challenge people at voting stations. Some have already said they're coming armed.

At his Nuremberg-style rallies, where he screams incoherent nonsense (remind you of anybody?), his followers beat people they feel (sorry, no thinking allowed) don't belong, like a scene right out of Pink Floyd's The Wall.

He has already declared the election fraudulent and told his followers to not accept the results and take matters into their own hands. That, my friends, is called a Putsch. Is there a beer hall handy?

Trump has no boundaries. When, not "if", when he gets in to power, four years is not going to be enough. The Presidency will be too restraining, the Constitution too constraining so he will simply declare himself Leader and Chancellor, or in German Führer und Reichskanzle. Then, with the economy crashing around him, he will look for resources and land. Hitler looked to the Caspian Sea. Trump will have his Wall to the South, but for resources will look North.

Canada joined the Allied effort to fight Hitler early. You Yanks were late to the parade. Canada made some very, very good friends back then who still remember. I used to work in a Government office surrounded by enormous beds of beautiful tulips. Always tulips. You see, the Dutch would send a shipment every year in gratitude for Canada's role in the liberation of Holland. The Brits were rather pleased with us, as were the French (may I remind you they have nukes even if we don't?) and a whole lot of other countries with standing armies who are watching in horror as America falls victim to an authoritarian, sociopathic narcissist.

We remember Hitler. We were there. We will be ready.

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Nice OP. Just my thoughts on this. titaniumsalute Oct 2016 #1
Post removed Post removed Oct 2016 #2
There are few perfect things in this world, but you are a perfect idiot and a perfect asshole. Squinch Oct 2016 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #6
Is that your Christianity you are expressing right there? Because I think you aren't understanding Squinch Oct 2016 #9
Gone now. Another white Christian horribly persecuted. pinboy3niner Oct 2016 #12
What did they say? edbermac Oct 2016 #25
I second that motion. 47of74 Oct 2016 #30
I third it. Ligyron Oct 2016 #32
I've asked the Admins to bring it back. 47of74 Oct 2016 #46
Thanks I was going to post that in ATA. edbermac Oct 2016 #52
I'd say go ahead and do it too. 47of74 Oct 2016 #57
Damn! I missed it. lonestarnot Oct 2016 #45
Yeah I know. 47of74 Oct 2016 #59
Just occurred to me TrogL Oct 2016 #63
Hi. Bye. shenmue Oct 2016 #16
Wow.. a brainwashed trump idiot comes out of the Cha Oct 2016 #18
Enjoy your brief stay lillypaddle Oct 2016 #5
For any who are curious after MIRT cleans up, post 2 is a neo-nazi idiot whose feelings have Squinch Oct 2016 #7
That's called a 'rahowahhhh!' Mc Mike Oct 2016 #11
I had to look it up. That special combination of racism and the inability to understand that Squinch Oct 2016 #19
Where'd you look? Mc Mike Oct 2016 #21
I had to look up rahowa. Never heard of it before. But yes, the wahhhh addition seems appropriate. Squinch Oct 2016 #23
Message auto removed Mc Mike Oct 2016 #26
Message auto removed must be a very high count poster by now. Squinch Oct 2016 #28
The hugest. The winningest post count. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #31
It's an abbreviation for RAcial HOly WAr. m-lekktor Oct 2016 #36
No kidding? mountain grammy Oct 2016 #39
Yeah, some of their geeks have been pushing that garbagio for quite a while. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #40
Wow. I learn something every day. Some of this shit I wish I didn't learn. Nay Oct 2016 #55
I think I've made my point. THAT was scary TrogL Oct 2016 #13
It was a perfect illustration of your point. I totally agree with your OP. Squinch Oct 2016 #14
There was another trump troll right below Cha Oct 2016 #20
Math doesn't seem to be their strong suit. It's actually quite sad. Can you imagine looking at the Squinch Oct 2016 #24
What if it turned out Turbineguy Oct 2016 #34
From all the analysis of his personality, I think that's highly unlikely. GoneOffShore Oct 2016 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author TrogL Oct 2016 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #17
Wow! In_The_Wind Oct 2016 #8
Trump is lying to you Big league! You racism blinds you! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #10
America, Democracy, our constitution, our values: Are All on the ballot this year! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #3
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2016 #22
This election is veeeeeeeery similar to Hitler's rise to power: DetlefK Oct 2016 #27
good points! and yes, he probably had a better shot in 2008 when Dubya destroyed the economy Divine Discontent Oct 2016 #64
Fascism didn't die after WW2, it just went on hiatus. roamer65 Oct 2016 #29
Everything will turn out ok, Trump will lose huge. Who I'm disappointed in are Republicans. Sunlei Oct 2016 #33
Here's the scene from Pink Floyd's "The Wall" I was talking about TrogL Oct 2016 #35
The Nazi echoes in Trump's tweets: dalton99 Oct 2016 #37
He went there TrogL Oct 2016 #41
dRump, tweets, & nazi echoes: Mc Mike Oct 2016 #42
The OP is scarey right and it's time we get everyone to grasp the fact that Republicans and world wide wally Oct 2016 #43
100% correct, which is what I love what they are doing in AZ, TX etc. Keep the b'stards on the back OnDoutside Oct 2016 #62
Stolperstein - Look it up njcpa1978 Oct 2016 #44
I did not know about them. 47of74 Oct 2016 #47
Now you've got me crying TrogL Oct 2016 #49
Thank you awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #60
I remembered something else TrogL Oct 2016 #48
I was born in '45, dgibby Oct 2016 #50
tar sands enid602 Oct 2016 #51
I'm right with you. I went to Moscow, Leningrad, & Kiev in 1976. Memories were still catbyte Oct 2016 #53
All true. AND even if he fails this time around he is laying the foundation for the next 'Trump' pampango Oct 2016 #54
It absolutely is! True_Blue Oct 2016 #56
What's needed is a clear and accurate analysis of today's conditions struggle4progress Oct 2016 #58
There's definite similarities. Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #61
Yeah I could totally see him invading Canada arely staircase Oct 2016 #65
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