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RiverStone

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5. While I agree on the added focus to legislatures + Gov, yet on optics....

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 06:07 PM

Dec 2016

Nancy is uninspiring and business as usual to VOTERS!

PNWMOM, we debated the merits (or not) of Nancy last week. And as I noted, I was surprised to be in the minority opinion on DU (at least in that one thread). Thankfully, we do not march in lock-step around here, so I opinion onwards.

On issues, Nancy is Liberal (no doubt there) - yet and in consideration that we need RADICAL changes to win against a fascist-elect who is a master manipulator of the MSM...it's now about doing what ever we need to win...that's win VOTES.

It comes down to winning votes. My 20 something kiddos find little inspiration in the current Democratic Party - as we ALL were Bernie supporters in my family, and see his revolution idea is in order. The old establishment Dems do not inspire. I voted for Hillary, yet did not vote for Bernie's message to be marginalized.

p.s. I live in the PNW too!

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Kudos to the 12 US Representatives who *publicly* opposed Nancy Pelosi yesterday! [View all] RiverStone Dec 2016 OP

Nancy Pelosi is one of the most liberal members of Congress pnwmom Dec 2016 #1

What she said. Thanks, PNWMom CurtEastPoint Dec 2016 #2

While I agree on the added focus to legislatures + Gov, yet on optics.... RiverStone Dec 2016 #5

Despite what Bernie people think, millions of Hillary supporters, including young women, pnwmom Dec 2016 #26

+ a million! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #31

Thanks pnwmom. The bros are continuing their assault on the Democratic party stalwarts who have.... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #43

It was time for a change. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #3

No, it's time for a leader who knows how to pull every switch and lever, pnwmom Dec 2016 #4

What will she do differently to WIN? n/t RiverStone Dec 2016 #6

What will HE do? Wave his magic male whatever? pnwmom Dec 2016 #12

Here is the rational on what he will do from Rep Moulton - who Rachel interviewed: RiverStone Dec 2016 #23

Same question is/was applicable to Ryan as well Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #13

What's she going to do? n2doc Dec 2016 #40

What's HE going to do? He won't have a magic gavel, and he doesn't have the pnwmom Dec 2016 #42

Yes! Rec that!! RiverStone Dec 2016 #7

I agree, time for CHANGE Skittles Dec 2016 #8

"Dago Red Wine" emulatorloo Dec 2016 #9

2/3 of the Democratic congresspersons we elected voted for Nancy Pelosi frazzled Dec 2016 #10

I love Democracy, though we also know it's about Nancy's connection to $$$$$ RiverStone Dec 2016 #17

No, we don't know that frazzled Dec 2016 #19

Shaming Longtime Democratic Leaders otohara Dec 2016 #11

they want the heads of all the leadership who are women La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #15

and/or liberals. emulatorloo Dec 2016 #18

I got accused of being sexist when I endorsed Tim Ryan RiverStone Dec 2016 #34

I just let that stuff roll off my back. Du'ers accuse each other of lots of dumb things. emulatorloo Dec 2016 #36

Thanks emulatoroo! RiverStone Dec 2016 #41

LOL. on the one hand you guys say you want true liberals, on the other you want to kick out pelosi La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #14

Then tell me, what do you rec Nancy DO DIFFERENTLY to.... RiverStone Dec 2016 #20

why do bernie voters want to replace one of the most liberal democrats with a less liberal democrat? La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #21

My rep is NOT liberal. She is a Blue Dog. She backed Ryan dbackjon Dec 2016 #35

Yup La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #37

Crucial Lifetime Progressive Score: Moulton 74.68% Pelosi 93.79% emulatorloo Dec 2016 #16

What then should Nancy do differently? RiverStone Dec 2016 #22

What specifically do you think Pelosi has done wrong? emulatorloo Dec 2016 #24

It's water under the bridge now, but since you asked... RiverStone Dec 2016 #27

Got it. She's old, a liberal, and not from Ohio, Michigan, or Wisconsin. emulatorloo Dec 2016 #32

Saying that "impeachment was off the table," potone Dec 2016 #29

Agree, and I remain surprised the status quo in DU land seems to favor weak leadership? RiverStone Dec 2016 #38

"change" to a bigoted, anti-choice white guy who wants to embrace/win back other bigots? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #25

And do you see the other 62 Democratic Representatives as wanting to win back bigots too? RiverStone Dec 2016 #28

Amen! BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #33

My Blue Dog Rep, Kyrstin Sinema, voted for Ryan dbackjon Dec 2016 #30

The problem with Nancy Pelosi is not about how she gets votes together, it's all about the optics. PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #39