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3. Alas, history isn't a guide to what's happening...

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 04:20 PM

Dec 2016

...we are experiencing something unique in our history. First of all, a party that for a generation has shown more and more contempt for the norms of liberal democracy. And finally, after their work is done, comes churning out of the swamp the culmination of their labors: an outright fascist in the White House. We are in utterly uncharted territory, and I'm afraid that article--which made me feel good, for a brief instant, when I read it--is whistling past the graveyard. Too many people are "normalizing" what's happening, even here at DU--"well, people thought the same thing in 2000 and 2008, when Bush and Obama won"--that sort of thing. Absolutely none of the old rules apply anymore.

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I found this article soothes my fears [View all] marylandblue Dec 2016 OP

I hope this woke up the non-voters and the protest voters Skittles Dec 2016 #1

God I hope so. Salviati Dec 2016 #2

Alas, history isn't a guide to what's happening... First Speaker Dec 2016 #3

This. CrispyQ Dec 2016 #5

Well then, they have no excuse when things go south like Kansas has. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2016 #15

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #21

if history is a guide there is light at the end of the tunnel markbark Dec 2016 #4

I hope if it's true we ram though what we want while we have the majority. jalan48 Dec 2016 #6

There could be a shift in '18 Senate race. 7962 Dec 2016 #7

Mostly Dems. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #8

Oh. Didnt know that. Thanks. nt 7962 Dec 2016 #18

Disjunctive? I was hoping for constipation bucolic_frolic Dec 2016 #9

If we survive. Barack_America Dec 2016 #10

Maybe. But it's also likely that the "light at the end of the tunnel" looks like this... FailureToCommunicate Dec 2016 #11

I'm afraid that past history isn't the guide anymore lunatica Dec 2016 #12

I'm thinking that after Trump signs the ACA appeal elmac Dec 2016 #13

There are signs that he can't hold his coalition together already marylandblue Dec 2016 #14

we can only hope joanbarnes Dec 2016 #16

OK, reality question. How in the hell .. ananda Dec 2016 #17

They will be called upon to clean up the mess. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #19

Trump is the Republican version of Jimmy Carter*. Dawson Leery Dec 2016 #20

"One thing I cant understand is why the Democrats were so incompetent in conveying their ..." uponit7771 Dec 2016 #22

+1, He explained in the article that he doesn't see DPutin doing better than 4.6% UE rate and uponit7771 Dec 2016 #23

kick Dawson Leery Dec 2016 #24