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19. You are talking about current or future Immigration law?

Reply to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed Dec 7, 2016, 11:24 AM

Dec 2016

What is the correct way to apply the law? Does the law need to be changed, or ignored? Ignored on a case-by-case basis?

This is what I could never understand about the whole illegal immigration thing, is the apparent idea that we don't need borders at all, or that anyone who makes it across the border illegally gets a Home Free Pass?

Does a person have to become a Republican to say international border security is something to uphold?

It is not even a matter to me whether the persons are terrorists or not, yet that is an obvious concern to our nation. It is kind of like saying any hungry person who knocks on your door must be invited to the dinner table, which would be the 'right' thing to do, right? It's a fuzzy line, isn't it? Our border has become that same kind of fuzzy line, and everybody who comes here has a preemptive right to be taken care of, regardless of the people who came here legally, or the people who were born here who are homeless /destitute, or both.

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Yes. They are Deplorable. [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 OP

'you're deplorable, but you can redeem yourself by voting for us' great message for 2020 NRQ891 Dec 2016 #1

I don't see a nexus DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #2

you really don't get what I said, at all NRQ891 Dec 2016 #3

I get it. That's your problem. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #4

Godwin's Law invoked NRQ891 Dec 2016 #6

This is fun. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #7

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Can we role play where you are a member of the SS and I am a Jewish resister in the Warsaw Ghetto? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #9

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I must have struck a nerve DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #12

yes, a very bored one nt NRQ891 Dec 2016 #13

The more gentlemanly thing to do is wave the white flag of surrender and move on. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #14

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #15

As I said there are more gentlemanly ways of surrender. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #16

Looks like someone is a widdle angwy for rightly being tagged Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #17

"They" are unreachable. And, yes, largely deplorable. NRaleighLiberal Dec 2016 #18

Hell yeah. One of the best responses to this crazy line of reasoning I have seen! hueymahl Dec 2016 #24

How do you adjust your message DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #29

Great question hueymahl Dec 2016 #37

It's not as if we got our clocks cleaned... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #39

I am stunned by the callousness of the Republican leaders hueymahl Dec 2016 #40

Apparently Nancy Pelosi hasn't figured that one out yet. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #48

If we could only deport tens of millions of "deplorables," we could win without saying anything! Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #51

Do we deport the secular progressives or the traditionalists? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #80

Again, sarcasm and irony are dead in DU... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #82

Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #83

Well OK, I guess. NT Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #91

How many times a week do you watch the Factor? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #94

Begs the question. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #95

"Begs the question" how your are so familiar with Bill O'Reilly's oeuvre. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #96

Like experts on the NRA here. Don't read their shit either. Any more questions? Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #97

Wayne LaPierre or Bill O'Reilly? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #98

Hey, you're the one who studies and keeps up with them. I prefer Eleanor. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #111

Charlton Heston or George Clooney? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #112

Please give an example of this "substance" you speak of. Laffy Kat Dec 2016 #76

They're also shitheads, IMO. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2016 #5

"Deplorable", "shitheads"; and those are their GOOD qualities! 11 Bravo Dec 2016 #11

You are talking about current or future Immigration law? astral Dec 2016 #19

Mercy is part and parcel of justice. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #20

+1 hamsterjill Dec 2016 #22

Amen uponit7771 Dec 2016 #25

I'm afraid a lot of people did vote Republican as a demand for border security Dems to Win Dec 2016 #32

FIXED DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #44

I love my home in Montana but Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #46

It would be insane to have open borders but I can't believe posters on this site are deomonizing ... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #49

I'm not demonizing undoc workers, I'm blaming the fed govt for failing to vigorously enforce labor Dems to Win Dec 2016 #67

Enforce the borders and provide a path to citizenship for law abiding and gainfully employed... DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #73

Prop 187 passed 59 to 41 Dems to Win Dec 2016 #53

It was Pete Wilson's baby. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #55

And Pete Wilson's bastard son is now president elect Trump, riding the same sentiment as prop 187 Dems to Win Dec 2016 #74

You do realize we have the lower levels of illegal immigration now than we did in 1994, right? Humanist_Activist Dec 2016 #100

10 million undocumented immigrants in the US today Dems to Win Dec 2016 #104

The fact of the matter is that, in most cases, it wasn't illegal immigrants that took their jobs... Humanist_Activist Dec 2016 #105

The fact of the matter is, people see busloads of Spanish-speaking workers Dems to Win Dec 2016 #106

What do you expect them to do? The Democrats talk about penalizing employers... Humanist_Activist Dec 2016 #108

Enforcement is 'up,' but not near the order of magnitude to SOLVE the problem Dems to Win Dec 2016 #109

It sounds to me like you brother aided in violating immigration, hence the importance of... Humanist_Activist Dec 2016 #110

I watched that program. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #21

I doubt he sends the Dreamers back. They are sympathetic figures. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #23

We'll soon see what the GOP thinks about figures, DPutin gives a shit about himself uponit7771 Dec 2016 #26

I think there will be a great uproar if he tries. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #27

Trump is a bad guy but he's not stupid. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #28

That might have been the moment MichMary Dec 2016 #30

If a person is a racist, a misogynist, a sexist, a hompohobe he or she is deplorable. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #31

There's a difference between MichMary Dec 2016 #34

That's a fair point. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #36

NONSENSE. No one would have talked about the ugly fascists in the room MADem Dec 2016 #85

My SO thinks that was the moment she lost the election Dems to Win Dec 2016 #33

People who were never going to vote for Hillary, period. And yes, they are Deplorable SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #35

And there were a lot of people on the fence MichMary Dec 2016 #38

Then they helped Trump win and they ARE deplorable. Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #57

"You can grab them by the pussy, do anything you want" Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #56

Thank you Generator Dec 2016 #77

Even if it is true you don't say it because it makes those people mad and more likely to actually... PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #103

You've probably noticed I've been quiet JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #41

Political parties reach out; culture warriors at this site do culture war, so they can't lead. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #54

Reach out to anti-semites, sexists, racists, homophobes, misogynists, and xenophobes ? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #58

Interesting reference eh? JustAnotherGen Dec 2016 #75

A political party reaches out for support; sometimes you can't condition that with purity tests... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #81

Purity tests? Eschewing racists is somehow being too "pure?" Come on. MADem Dec 2016 #86

Responses: Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #87

Here ya go: My opinions only, mind you-people who don't like don't have to buy... MADem Dec 2016 #88

I appreciate your responses, and agree with most of your outlook... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #90

I think many (not all) white people are racist and most have been raised with "privilege." MADem Dec 2016 #92

Coasting means people who live on the coasts. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #89

I wonder how they'd manage without them, and their cash? nt MADem Dec 2016 #93

faces enid602 Dec 2016 #42

some of those "Deplorables" also voted for Obama twice. So maybe it was partly the candidate KittyWampus Dec 2016 #43

Even some racists will vote for a black guy if there is something in it for them. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #45

or maybe it wasn't necessarily racism. You have nothing to prove your point. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #59

I have nothing to prove that Trump was a racist? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #62

I was referencing the voters who voted for Obama twice and Trump once. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #64

Hillary got 93% of them. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #69

DSB. While I'm Essentially On Board. . . ProfessorGAC Dec 2016 #99

The Democrat running this time had sky high job approval and favorability numbers just 3 of 4 years StevieM Dec 2016 #47

They also did the same to Obama. And yet enough people voted for him. Twice. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #60

But it didn't go without saying that he could, or that any Democrat can. There are lots of factors StevieM Dec 2016 #68

No right wing coup Generator Dec 2016 #78

Obama caught them by suprise the first time, was the incumbant the second. haele Dec 2016 #84

Actually the democrat running also had high negative numbers and a history of bad campaigning PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #102

Or maybe it was simply effective commercial branding appealing to lowest common denominators LanternWaste Dec 2016 #52

Then that just means Clinton's commercial branding sucked, while Obama's was better. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #61

Or maybe they loved Trump's hate? DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #63

Or maybe Clinton never managed to get her message out to the people in the Rust Belt KittyWampus Dec 2016 #66

Let's stipulate Clinton was a flawed candidate. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #70

good for you on having your percieved moral high ground. That doesn't win us any future elections KittyWampus Dec 2016 #71

Not perception. Reality. I am a more moral person DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #72

Apparently many here would prefered Obama lost rather than get those votes. n/t PoliticAverse Dec 2016 #101

I agree, still stupid to say these thing out loud by a presidential candidate MadBadger Dec 2016 #50

Trump supporters are racist ignorant deplorables Gothmog Dec 2016 #65

And ugly, toothless, and fat. You forgot those. SlimJimmy Dec 2016 #107

I'd really love to say what I think should be done with them...but I would get banned. N/t roamer65 Dec 2016 #79