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40. And how many here thought that was a good idea?

Mon Dec 12, 2016, 03:23 PM

Dec 2016

Most progressives thought the right's obsession with Russia, including the McCarthy years, the labelling of anyone who didn't support the Cold War as "Comrade" or "traitor" was stupid.

I'm not saying that Russia is a good actor -- it's not. It's a very bad actor. But referencing back to our paranoia about Russia and how it led us into the Vietnam quagmire seems odd.

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We fought the whole g.d. Vietnam War to keep Russian influence out of a small country [View all] KamaAina Dec 2016 OP

Thanks for clearly getting this Russian involvement into an accurate perspective. nt ladjf Dec 2016 #1

De nada. KamaAina Dec 2016 #2

Si, verdaderamente de nada. Vietnam used Russian support until they were independent Nitram Dec 2016 #26

+ 1 nt iluvtennis Dec 2016 #4

We fought the Communists allied with the USSR while we were allied with the Spanish Fascists FarCenter Dec 2016 #3

yep. and we fought Germany in WW I BEFORE A there were Nazis yurbud Dec 2016 #18

The official number of VN War U.S. military fatalities is currently 58,315 pinboy3niner Dec 2016 #5

... FailureToCommunicate Dec 2016 #13

I knew more than 60 of them pinboy3niner Dec 2016 #14

One is too many. 60 is unbearable. FailureToCommunicate Dec 2016 #30

When people died, we said they were 'wasted' pinboy3niner Dec 2016 #36

And we just lost another...to Agent Orange? or maybe not duhneece Dec 2016 #38

Good point. Thanks. (nt) Paladin Dec 2016 #6

Or..... A HERETIC I AM Dec 2016 #7

Hey! Hey! Donald Jay! How many vets have you sold out today?? malchickiwick Dec 2016 #8

We mistakenly The Wizard Dec 2016 #9

On the plus side of the Viet Nam War 90-percent Dec 2016 #10

On the plus side, it kept us from pouring troops into wars in Central America pinboy3niner Dec 2016 #22

President Johnson Bear Creek Dec 2016 #11

iirc, after John Kerry's testimony and plea to get out, 14,000 more U.S. troops died pinboy3niner Dec 2016 #12

And during Nixon's escalation, my father was deployed twice, was exposed to Agent Orange... MANative Dec 2016 #15

I'm Sorry Bear Creek Dec 2016 #20

Thank you. It's especially raw this Christmas season because we also lost my youngest brother... MANative Dec 2016 #21

R.I.P. to your dad and your little brother pinboy3niner Dec 2016 #24

Thank you for your kind words and for the suggestion about MANative Dec 2016 #31

Well, not exactly, Kama. Nitram Dec 2016 #16

Dont stop him, he's on a roll (nt) jack_krass Dec 2016 #17

According to a Vietnamese I once knew, Ho was regarded as the founder of a new dynasty FarCenter Dec 2016 #19

He also led them in a long war that defeated the French. Nitram Dec 2016 #25

And if I remember, we also fought World War 2 to keep the Nazis from controlling the world. Initech Dec 2016 #23

We were stupid then, and we'd be stupid now to rekindle cold war. Hoyt Dec 2016 #27

Hoyt, you have the nerve to USE Woody Guthrie as an avatar and you can say that Nitram Dec 2016 #28

Yeah right. Don't think Guthrie would call for demonizing Russia. Trump likely, Hoyt Dec 2016 #29

I thought you were replying to the post above you that referenced WWII. MY apologies. Nitram Dec 2016 #39

No apologies necessary, but thanks. Hoyt Dec 2016 #41

You know I have thought about this many times since all this damn Russian INdemo Dec 2016 #32

Good point flamingdem Dec 2016 #33

But, he served his equivalent time.. Lithos Dec 2016 #34

and many of us thought that was an incredibly stupid and self-destructive thing for the country onenote Dec 2016 #35

This may the best framing I've heard... duhneece Dec 2016 #37

And how many here thought that was a good idea? onenote Dec 2016 #40