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In reply to the discussion: Jesus Christ Sanders are you serious??? [View all]hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)133. You raise an important point. We do not value hard work in the US
It's interesting how even union members sometimes will complain somebody is being paid too much, when some union jobs pay so much because they are union jobs, not the skill level.
We hear a lot about agricultural workers. How they need illegals because "americans won't do those jobs". But maybe a lot of americans are just not in good enough shape to do those jobs??
Why is it that jobs involving physical exertion, which many people can't do are low paid?
I had a friend who was a migrant worker. She was a US citizen. She had to do a lot of traveling and also even in the winter when she was off she went out and exercised every day to stay in shape because unless she maintained a certain level of fitness she couldn't make money doing it. To me it was no difft than a teacher doing continuing education but she made less.
I remember one time they raised the min wage and I was all happy and the guy beside me was complaining that it sucked because that meant he moved down the ladder because the min wage earners were closer to him in pay now. Same guy never complained about some stock trader flipping a switch and making a million dollars with no effort. Or some CEO laying off a bunch of workers and then making a big bonus even though the company wasn't making money.
I applaud what Bernie is doing. Outreach. He's doing the job they gave him.
The examples above show how far we need to go in changing the mindset of people.
When people are as outraged about companies ripping off workers and people making obscene amounts of money just because they have money, without doing any hard work, instead of being upset when their fellow worker gets a raise or some person gets 200 dollars worth of food stamps a month then we'll be making progress.
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Fat lot of good. Trying to "listen" and "be reasonable" and waiting for these SHMOES to
Maru Kitteh
Dec 2016
#13
This discussion showed a few million Americans some of the realities of Trump.
Dustlawyer
Dec 2016
#89
Read what you wrote and ask yourself what YOU would have thought if you were one of them
karynnj
Dec 2016
#143
My husband insisted we watch it, first time I watched MSNBC since election night
kimbutgar
Dec 2016
#4
Yup, someone argued with me that no one straight out of high school should get $15/hr.
SunSeeker
Dec 2016
#47
How the hell does a "neo-Nazi who has lost his mind " live in a million dollar house ?????
dixiegrrrrl
Dec 2016
#99
You don't win people over by saying they were stupid to vote the way they did
Quixote1818
Dec 2016
#12
We don't win on financial issues because our politicians answer to many of the same donors as
Dustlawyer
Dec 2016
#60
How would you do it? Someone certainly needs to break it to union members that repugs . . .
brush
Dec 2016
#23
True, but Democratic politicians when they have an audience of union members should speak up too.
brush
Dec 2016
#122
No... they'll blame the failures of their policies on the Democrats like they usually do
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#37
He just doesn't get it, as though his criticism of Clinton during the primary campaign...
George II
Dec 2016
#44
I couldn't believe his attitude the week of the convention and then his glaring frown....
George II
Dec 2016
#54
Debbie Wasserman Schultz resigned as DNC chair the day before the convention. Any thoughts on that?
think
Dec 2016
#58
If you start a thread on that topic I'd be happy to give you my thoughts. Deal?
George II
Dec 2016
#78
Thank God for Sanders, if not for him NO ONE will ask Republicans any questions. "joker"
Sunlei
Dec 2016
#75
Jen Palmieri, Hillary's communications director, just described the town hall as "terrific"
bullwinkle428
Dec 2016
#84
Nope- as Van Jones is trying, Bernie is normalizing the suffering of the working class
Fiendish Thingy
Dec 2016
#95
If you factor in all the free media that Trump got, the "value" of Trump's campaign greatly
MADem
Dec 2016
#118
There is a medium ground between normalizing DT and screaming at his supporters,
pnwmom
Dec 2016
#126
He spent that town hall dragging these people out of the darkness, educating them.
DemocraticWing
Dec 2016
#120