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In reply to the discussion: Jesus Christ Sanders are you serious??? [View all]karynnj
(61,031 posts)I agree that nothing Trump is likely to do will help them in any way and many things will hurt them. However what you wanted Bernie to do is to attack them and essentially call them idiots. Had he done that, do you imagine they would have suddenly seen the light and realized that they made a huge mistake?
If you had listened longer, you would have seen points where - AFTER LISTENING - he explained that the Republicans are the party that want to change SS, Medicare and medicaid in a bad way. This is a man who has a reputation for meeting with and listening to the people that he represents. By listening and not attacking them, he is able to provide information on things that they are concerned about. I live in Vermont and Sanders is one of my Senators and they are both solidly on our side.
I understand your anger that this group of people voted against their economic good - fooled by a con man speaking at the end of the campiagn of Democrats not understanding living from pay check to pay check.
I would bet that at least one of the people Bernie interacted with who said she voted for Trump - came out understanding that the Democrats were the ones fighting for social programs. She oddly thought that Trump "listened" to people like her and the Democrats including Hillary did not listen to her. I wish she would have been asked about earlier votes. The Politico article today on the campaign speaks of the campaign not doing the typical door to door canvassing or mail drops. Could that have made it seem they were written off? It is worth listening and looking into what happened here because Michigan and Wisconsin clearly did not vote as expected in either the primary or general election. Consider that Democrats won in 2012 and even in 2004 when Bush was an incumbent who started 2003 at 60% approval. Something changed in 2016. It is worth knowing if it was Hillary, the type of campaign waged, Trump or a fundamental change in the ideology in the rust belt.
Without learning from this year, we will not know how to do better in the future.