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In reply to the discussion: The other shoe drops. Huma Abedin says was NEVER SERVED the warrant [View all]jberryhill
(62,444 posts)62. A couple of obvious questions...
First off, what is it, exactly, that was searched?
Was it the physical devices, presumably already in custody to be searched, or were they digital images of the storage devices on those devices which had been made when they were initially seized in the Weiner investigation.
This news article is really hazy on the procedural details of the actual proceeding in which the letters were submitted.
Here's the thing... Let's say that two people, A and B, share a computer. A is suspected of doing something illegal on that computer. In the ordinary course, a warrant will issue for the computer and the investigators will make a copy of the drive - a complete image of everything stored on it. The physical computer at that point is irrelevant. The image can be searched for everything related to person A.
Then, if there is reason to believe that person B has done something illegal, or that person B's use of that computer is believed to have produced evidence of activity relevant to an investigation, in order to search the image for stuff that person B did, the investigators can get a warrant to search that image for person B's stuff. However, that warrant doesn't need to be served on person B - the investigators already have possession of the digital image pursuant to the warrant that was used to seize the computer in the course of investigating person A.
If you recall, this was the scheme that the NSA was working on at one point to capture vast swaths of digital communications on the internet and store it at a facility in Utah. Then, whenever there was a reason to look for something in particular, they could obtain a warrant and search that stored data for whatever in particular they were looking for. In other words, the stored data itself would only be searched pursuant to a warrant.
What seems to be going on here, and this news article is a trainwreck in terms of relating the actual proceeding in question, is that pursuant to a motion that the article doesn't even describe, the court is considering a request to unseal documents in the Weiner investigation. Hence, the court has sought input from parties that might have interests affected by unsealing those documents as to whether or not they should be unsealed in whole or in part.
But this part here doesn't strike me as all that relevant to anything:
must give a copy of the warrant and a receipt or the property taken to the person from whom, or from whose premise, the property was taken.
Presumably that already happened when the computer was seized in the first place. Otherwise, why on earth would anyone have handed it over.
But if the warrant to search Abedin's emails was in relation to a digital copy of the drive of that computer, then that digital copy was not "taken" from Abedin or Abedin's premises.
This article needs a lot more detail fleshed out in order to reach any kind of conclusion about WTF is going on. However, it is instead written in a sensationalistic style without any clue as to the relevant procedural circumstances.
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The downside is if you fire him, he gets replaced by somebody Trump chooses
Johnathan146
Dec 2016
#3
Given that Trump just picks all the people he's seen on FOX NEWS, he will probably pick
TrollBuster9090
Dec 2016
#38
Only if she wears a mini-skirt, and they replace the Supreme Court bench
TrollBuster9090
Dec 2016
#45
Similarly if Weiner was the owner of the computer why would they need to show Abedin a warrant? n/t
PoliticAverse
Dec 2016
#20
If that we're the case then wouldn't the one warrant prev. issued to the owner cover the computer?
herding cats
Dec 2016
#55
If it goes to trial, Comney (or whever is prosecuted) will be killed by a "Liberal Extremest."
briv1016
Dec 2016
#24
I thought that it was the NYPD that discovered that there were Huma emails on the computer?
FarCenter
Dec 2016
#31
It started as a mundane sex crimes case - I doubt that the FBI was very involved
FarCenter
Dec 2016
#61
You're right, I haven't found a clear statement of what exactly they're searching;
pnwmom
Dec 2016
#79