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19. Look at the "taker" states vs. the "giver" states

Sat Dec 17, 2016, 04:21 AM

Dec 2016

Chart here: http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

The biggest "taker" states, that is, the ones that mooch twice as much (or more) from the federal government as they contribute, are all, except for Hawai'i and New Mexico, among the reddest, most "conservative," anti-tax, anti-rights, anti-education states in the nation. In order of greediest (or most inefficient, if you prefer):

South Carolina
North Dakota
Florida
Louisiana
Alabama
Hawai'i
Mississippi
New Mexico
Kentucky
West Virginia
Indiana

Among the "giver" states, i.e. the ones who get back less from Washington than they contribute, are (bet you guessed already) the big bad "libbrul" states of Massachusetts, New York, and, of course (despite their big sales and state incomes taxes), California.

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Has California become America's Taiwan ? [View all] jaysunb Dec 2016 OP

I suspect the Repubs in DC won't be supportive of states rights when blue states defy their wishes. LonePirate Dec 2016 #1

Seriously considering the move to either Oregon or California, snowfall today is helping sarcasmo Dec 2016 #2

I hate to tell you this, but it just snowed in Portland. KamaAina Dec 2016 #3

It snowed here in California in the mountains and it's predicted to be Raine Dec 2016 #18

Have friends in San Diego, going to check that out this spring. sarcasmo Dec 2016 #23

San Diego is a beautiful city. I was just down there a couple days ago Raine Dec 2016 #33

Born and raised here, and never been prouder to be a Californian. TDale313 Dec 2016 #4

How about America's Scotland? KamaAina Dec 2016 #5

I like how goods made in Asia come through your ports eleny Dec 2016 #6

California will look a good bit more "golden" without Colorado River water. FarCenter Dec 2016 #7

And, who else will they sell it to ? n/t jaysunb Dec 2016 #8

Arizona, New Mexico, and maybe keep more in Colorado and Utah FarCenter Dec 2016 #22

And your larder will suffer for that drought. SQUEE Dec 2016 #9

I suspect California will become independent in my lifetime, but not because of Trump Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #10

Spot on. n/t jaysunb Dec 2016 #12

Why would CA be allowed to just walk away when the South wasn't in 1861? Midwestern Democrat Dec 2016 #27

because the federal government by that time will probably be bankrupt and effete Sen. Walter Sobchak Dec 2016 #32

That's why Governor Brown is quiet on TPP. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #28

We have training centers out there... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #11

There are affordable areas..... jaysunb Dec 2016 #13

I live in the SF Bay Area. Adsos Letter Dec 2016 #14

We do not have to cooperate jaysunb Dec 2016 #15

The libertarian crowd who hated Clinton so much they voted for Trump will not be happy... hunter Dec 2016 #31

No awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #17

More like minimally $300k-$1M. diane in sf Dec 2016 #21

Yes easily $1M Dream Girl Dec 2016 #29

Time for the whole west coast to split off Calculating Dec 2016 #16

Look at the "taker" states vs. the "giver" states DFW Dec 2016 #19

Yes exactly and all us giver states get is continual contempt Raine Dec 2016 #34

Exactly. As if any of them knew what a "real American" is DFW Dec 2016 #36

I hope NY (and most of the Northeast) joins them. briv1016 Dec 2016 #20

The Houston metropolitan area wants in on that action Bucky Dec 2016 #24

As long as they stay outside the Dallas city limits DFW Dec 2016 #35

I'd say more like Quebec is to Canada. roamer65 Dec 2016 #25

As I pointed out elsewhere ... California does not even have proportional representation ... etherealtruth Dec 2016 #26

+1. n/t jaysunb Dec 2016 #30