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In reply to the discussion: Give me one reason while I should have empathy for the Deplorables... [View all]Buckeye_Democrat
(15,475 posts)97. Noam Chomsky's take on it...
Many white people, from the time they were kids, have been brainwashed by their parents and other influential white people in their lives that people who fail in the USA, the "greatest country on Earth", have only themselves to blame for not following a particular set of actions -- e.g., work hard, stay out of trouble, etc.
Individualism is often promoted to extremes, with people deemed "self made men" while ignoring the social and economic infrastructures that helped them along the way. It gets taken to such an extreme sometimes that many white people stop feeling empathy for others who struggle.
http://www.northwestern.edu/newscenter/stories/2010/04/neuroimage.html
In a rare neuroscience look at racial minorities, the study shows that African-Americans showed greater empathy for African-Americans facing adversity - in this case for victims of Hurricane Katrina - than Caucasians demonstrated for Caucasian-Americans in pain.
When their childhood instructions don't work out for them, it's not easy to cast them aside. Some of them will deem themselves failures (perhaps committing suicide) while others will look outward for explanations. Bottom line... they don't let go of their "rugged individualism" teachings very easily. Even if they receive various kinds of government aid, it's because they "earned it." It's almost criminal in their minds to get help otherwise!
The timing of events in this country didn't help matters. Many whites did well after WW2, but almost none of them understand how much this country benefited from pretty much every other industrial country being in shambles from bombings. It was a huge economic advantage for the USA. White people saw civil rights laws passed, women fighting for equal rights and other kinds of social upheavals in the 60's, around the same time that the post-WW2 "gravy train" of the 50's was vanishing.
Look at this "conservative narrative" and how it pretty much points to the 1950's as the ideal:
http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2012/08/21/in-the-magazine/trends-and-opinions/americas-painful-divide.html
Once upon a time, America was a shining beacon. Then liberals came along and erected an enormous federal bureaucracy that handcuffed the invisible hand of the free market. They subverted our traditional American values and opposed God and faith at every step of the way. Instead of requiring that people work for a living, they siphoned money from hardworking Americans and gave it to Cadillac-driving drug addicts and welfare queens. Instead of adhering to traditional American values of family, fidelity, and personal responsibility, they encouraged a feminist agenda that undermined traditional family roles. Instead of projecting strength to those who would do evil around the world, they cut military budgets, disrespected our soldiers in uniform, burned our flag, and chose negotiation and multilateralism. Then Americans decided to take their country back from those who sought to undermine it.
By the way, I don't really expect you to pity them! Many of them don't WANT pity because that goes against their individualistic view of the world.
I saw several white co-workers who were furious at President Obama for his "You didn't build that" comments in 2012. It was obvious to me that he was TRYING to get through their thick skulls that we're all dependent on each other and various infrastructures to be successful, at least partly, but that's something that many white people grapple to understand after their "John Wayne" infused teachings over the years.
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Give me one reason while I should have empathy for the Deplorables... [View all]
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2016
OP
People who exclusively watch and believe Fox News live in a different reality than we do
oberliner
Dec 2016
#23
When they polled Israelis Hillary was marginally more popular than Trump.
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2016
#30
Just because you're doing well up there in your tower, doesn't mean your fellow countrymen/women are
MadDAsHell
Dec 2016
#53
Such an intellectually dishonest post. Putting words in DSB's mouth he did not say
emulatorloo
Dec 2016
#106
I don't even have empthy for my family members who went racist enough to vote Trump
bravenak
Dec 2016
#67
Don't see much difference between these racist deplorables and the Nazis... I sure as fuck don't have any empathy for them.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2016
#26
This is the most important thing you have said here, I wonder how many reading this
Eliot Rosewater
Dec 2016
#38
Well, I try not to determine how I treat someone until they give reason otherwise
liberal N proud
Dec 2016
#5
Nailed it. Fuck them... they made their beds, unfortunately WE have to lay in it.
InAbLuEsTaTe
Dec 2016
#28
I hate to say it, but right now I feel the same. It is really not like me, and I don't like it.
Squinch
Dec 2016
#15
" Are you putting every Trump voter on the level of Hitler? Really?"
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2016
#50
One more time: all the studies that have looked at it have shown that people who were primarily
Squinch
Dec 2016
#39
The exit polls did NOT show Clinton winning ... the pre-election polls did.
etherealtruth
Dec 2016
#92
And a cabinet full of billionaires and major shareholders are going to help their plights . . . HOW?
HughBeaumont
Dec 2016
#54
And their faith will grow by leaps and bounds as they become more desperate . . .
hatrack
Dec 2016
#93
I lack empathy for people who traffic in bigotry and would physically hurt others if they could.
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2016
#64
"I personally saw Democratic members of the general assembly make fun of their black colleagues."
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2016
#124
Thank you. I don't want to harm them. Repeat, I don't want to harm them.
DemocratSinceBirth
Dec 2016
#101
Because if you don't, it makes it more likely Trump will be reelected. N.T.
Donald Ian Rankin
Dec 2016
#100
So many of our attitudes, philosophies, political leanings, depend on our exposure.
Thirties Child
Dec 2016
#110
To me there's a certain irony in calls for sympathy for Trump's voters from some progressives.
unpresidented2016
Dec 2016
#127