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okasha

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67. Dear Bear,

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:18 PM

Dec 2016

I think you may be overdue for a talk with one of your parents.

In Christian theology, the Holy Spirit has no physical form and no reproductive organs. Mary remains a virgin both before and after the conception of Jesus. His conception is regarded as miraculous, Mary's continuing virginity being one aspect of the miracle.

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They were eating dinosaur. AngryAmish Dec 2016 #2

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this predates Mithraism and Judaism Bucky Dec 2016 #44

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It's a short story. Watch the video. It should be the whole thing. TexasProgresive Dec 2016 #22

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Yes, this is true. Silver Gaia Dec 2016 #38

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Seems like a reach? MineralMan Dec 2016 #32

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