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Hamlette

(15,556 posts)
11. Nonsense. Complete BS
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 11:09 PM
Dec 2016

it's because we are not despicable animals. We are constitutionally incapable of spreading lies or believing them. We would never vote for a person who said:

"I get called by a guy that can't buy a pair of pants, I get called names?" – Trump’s comment about paralyzed commentator Charles Krauthammer

“You know, it really doesn’t matter what they write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.”

“If I were running ‘The View’, I’d fire Rosie O’Donnell. I mean, I’d look at her right in that fat, ugly face of hers, I’d say ‘Rosie, you’re fired.’”

“All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me – consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.”

“Lyin’ Ted Cruz just used a picture of Melania from a shoot in his ad. Be careful, Lyin’ Ted, or I will spill the beans on your wife!”

Just google it, you'll find hundreds just as offensive. Do I want to win, you bet. Do I want my candidates to talk like that? No.

We can't put up a "decent fight" unless we fight like they do. It has nothing to do with donors, although I would argue that the donors have interests too. If we raise taxes too high on the rich or corporations, they will move out of the country. I'd even convince you, given enough time, that banks have a reason for existing and while they should be regulated, some of the regulations do more harm than good. Do I believe in privatization of schools, or discrimination or cutting back social programs or getting rid of SS or Medicare? Hell no.

We lose because we don't have MORE donors who will do what the Koch brothers and others have done. Stay with it. Our biggest mistake of the last 20 years was 2010. When rich republicans funded low level elections and took house and senate majorities in states so they could be gerrymandered. If we let it happen again in 2020 by saying Democrats are as corrupt as Republicans because "donors" or whatever nonsense you are peddling, it will happen again.

Oh, and GOP did not convince the media they are sane, they convinced everyone else the media was biased. They did it on purpose. They started years ago saying "the media is against us" causing the media to bend over backwards to appear fair, hence, the false equivalency that drives us nuts.

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That's why we lost in '06, '08 and '12? brooklynite Dec 2016 #1
Yeah, we cleaned up in all the legislatures and statehouses. Hammered 'em, we did. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #30
It's why this country has been dragged rainy Dec 2016 #2
I think there is some truth in that. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #12
money is one thing, broken public discourse is another, and a significant wiggs Dec 2016 #3
Politics have always been dirty but it rainy Dec 2016 #20
Exactly how many Democrats bashing threads are needed today? ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #4
Right, time to unite not divide!! Wiseman32218 Dec 2016 #14
This is simply pointing out reality. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #18
+1!!! This is what I have been saying, keep spreading the truth! Dustlawyer Dec 2016 #5
Exactly Dustlawyer, exactly what I'm saying!!! rainy Dec 2016 #6
Now we just have to figure a way out. JudyM Dec 2016 #10
Uniting is our only hope. Arguing accomplishes nothing. Wiseman32218 Dec 2016 #15
So what exactly are we supposed to do? Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #19
Sorry for the delay in responding Wiseman32218 Dec 2016 #32
Speak for yourself. blue neen Dec 2016 #7
Short answer is that the right wing owns the media unblock Dec 2016 #8
You absolutely nailed it. I wasn't bashing rainy Dec 2016 #9
Nonsense. Complete BS Hamlette Dec 2016 #11
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #13
The GOP excels at working the refs. nt tblue37 Dec 2016 #17
What you are saying is get even more money rainy Dec 2016 #22
either that or we elect a Democratic lying, populist, sack of shit like Trump. Hamlette Dec 2016 #31
But Bernie did show a way to replace deep-pocket donors with small donations from a lot of tblue37 Dec 2016 #16
That is probably how we will finally rainy Dec 2016 #21
Yes, he did a great thing by taking Howard Dean's WhiteTara Dec 2016 #26
Voting rights. Equinox Moon Dec 2016 #23
Completely. They are all about cold, hard strategy to achieve their ends, not about good governance JudyM Dec 2016 #27
Hi JudyM. Equinox Moon Dec 2016 #28
Ugh, that is stunningly inadequate. JudyM Dec 2016 #29
One problem we have is we tell the truth while the pukes lie about everything. libtodeath Dec 2016 #24
Yes and the media never call them on it even though rainy Dec 2016 #25
Dems just fight badly. gulliver Dec 2016 #33
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