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Shemp Howard

(889 posts)
20. I must disagree.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:44 AM
Dec 2016

"But they were fully aware of Trump's racism and sexism, etc., and still chose to vote for him."

I just don't agree with that. As I noted in an earlier post, many Trump voters only heard from Trump what they wanted to hear. It is somewhat like people who are in love. They only see good in their partner.

I've talked to many Trump supporters of my acquaintance. Yes, some voted for Trump for racist reasons. But many more went for Trump out of desperation. I'm from a rust-belt state, and many of my middle-aged friends are desperate. There are no good jobs, and they are afraid. So they followed the Pied Piper.

Those Trump voters are not evil, or racist. They just made a bad choice in 2016.

Why I am taking a break from DU. [View all] Shemp Howard Dec 2016 OP
The only thing I know is that those who voted for trump were well aware of his racist and sexist still_one Dec 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #4
There are a lot of people here... potone Dec 2016 #2
+1. And I'd offer that it goes further to the fault of the media not even having intelligent policy JudyM Dec 2016 #7
Very well said! Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #11
Enjoy your break, Shemp True Dough Dec 2016 #19
Thank you for the kind words. (nt) Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #38
It doesn't necessarily make them stupid; aversion to both candidates lowered the prioritization JudyM Dec 2016 #67
I largely agree with your post. ... spin Dec 2016 #55
I am beyond weary of excusing the racism & misogyny of Trump voters as "they don't know any better" Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #5
That is a classic straw man argument. Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #6
They may not be stupid or evil EffieBlack Dec 2016 #10
+1000 kairos12 Dec 2016 #14
I must disagree. Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #20
gawd, you'd have to be DUMBER THAN FUCK not to have noticed Trumps's racism and misogyny Skittles Dec 2016 #29
I'd normally like to have a conversation with you about this... Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #31
voting for a racist / misogynist is excusable Skittles Dec 2016 #53
I was pulled into this thread because of your post... herding cats Dec 2016 #58
they have also bdamomma Dec 2016 #72
THANK YOU Skittles Dec 2016 #81
Either America is the dumbest fucking country on Earth Calculating Dec 2016 #74
Do you think Fox News reported racism? OnionPatch Dec 2016 #75
IF YOU WATCH ONLY FOX NEWS YOU ARE DUMBER THAN FUCK Skittles Dec 2016 #82
Yes, some people are dumb as fuck OnionPatch Dec 2016 #87
pleading the 5th Skittles Dec 2016 #91
So which will turn it around? Hate or education? HopeAgain Dec 2016 #78
No good jobs and they're afraid...well, I'm afraid of deep cuts to Social Security benefits and SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #84
It should never be normalized or lightly excused. Or next will be a hate criminal was stupid and lunasun Dec 2016 #24
I have to totally agree with the post and add one thing.... usedtobedemgurl Dec 2016 #83
... Different Drummer Dec 2016 #89
Funny, cuz I'm thinking of taking a break due to the nonsensical idea being pushed here Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #8
THIS EffieBlack Dec 2016 #12
I sort of agree with you. Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #15
Personally, I'm afraid the last thing most Trump voters want to be is educated. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #22
+1,000,000. Thank you. (nt) Paladin Dec 2016 #64
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #86
It's human nature to other those who don't belong to our group mythology Dec 2016 #9
We don't have to assume every Trump voter is an open racist or sexist. But they joined forces with EffieBlack Dec 2016 #13
Since you are willing to excuse people who voted for a Bigot. maybe you should do the same for those JI7 Dec 2016 #16
No argument from me there. Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #21
IIRC, according to the stats, most who voted for Trump were well off financially. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #23
That's a good point. Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #27
Plenty of well intentioned Germans took thier country down . It's only reasonable to not want lunasun Dec 2016 #30
True. Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #34
You may not be in the minority. HassleCat Dec 2016 #17
Can't "puts the brakes on (DRUMPF)" by loving & being kind to him and his. UTUSN Dec 2016 #18
Stupid doesn't equal evil, but stupid does equal stupid. Iggo Dec 2016 #25
Fix stupid. Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #28
You. Iggo Dec 2016 #79
While I appreciate your sentiments, when we start losing our civil liberties... RiverStone Dec 2016 #26
Hmm hibbing Dec 2016 #32
LOL, odd isn't it? Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #36
Who is Shemp Howard? kentuck Dec 2016 #39
My favorite comedian of all time, of course.(nt) Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #42
The fourth stooge from The Three Stooges. lapucelle Dec 2016 #76
Correct. Different Drummer Dec 2016 #90
Equanimity is a progressive trait, being able to shift focus and observe the various facets of a Donkees Dec 2016 #59
GOP is the ,,,, Cryptoad Dec 2016 #33
Buh bye... billh58 Dec 2016 #35
Stupid is as stupid does. hay rick Dec 2016 #37
I agree with you (surprise). Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #40
Maybe not evil. BlueStater Dec 2016 #41
unfortunately liberals don't realize 'stupid' means talk radio-educated certainot Dec 2016 #43
Ignorant and uninformed is not the same thing as stupid. tblue37 Dec 2016 #44
I don't see people that voted for trump as evil just Wiseman32218 Dec 2016 #45
There is a multitude of deplorables who take pride in their ignorance. oasis Dec 2016 #46
So the stupid people who voted for trump elmac Dec 2016 #47
It's not my place to determine if they are evil or stupid... It's just my place to say "Fuck 'em" world wide wally Dec 2016 #48
Imagine, if you will... Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #49
They would most likely prefer to see me dead, so I say "Fuck 'en" world wide wally Dec 2016 #52
Losing your job does not mean racism and sexism are ok. Coventina Dec 2016 #50
A question for you. Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #54
Your friend did something evil, but that doesn't automatically mean he is evil Coventina Dec 2016 #56
They are to stupid to be evil MFM008 Dec 2016 #51
I've actually worked at the frontlines trying to flip many of these voters. herding cats Dec 2016 #57
Come back around mid-summer FarCenter Dec 2016 #60
I see countless posts from DUers about all the health problems they're having since the election. cwydro Dec 2016 #61
You are probably in the majority here FarCenter Dec 2016 #62
Hmm, you may have a point there. cwydro Dec 2016 #71
Even Hillary called for reaching out to the half of Trump supporters that aren't deplorable. aidbo Dec 2016 #63
Thank you for stepping aside. Paladin Dec 2016 #65
Honest question... are you a minority? taught_me_patience Dec 2016 #66
I have glbtq, undocumented, and Muslim fiends. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 #68
Fuck that noise moda253 Dec 2016 #69
What would you call mercuryblues Dec 2016 #70
Nope Calculating Dec 2016 #73
I don't believe you Generator Dec 2016 #77
There seem to be a handful of you here, much like Susan Sarandon, who feel that a Trump admin... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #80
LOL! Give it a little while. When you realize just how much death and destruction those "nice Squinch Dec 2016 #85
Your friend had plenty liquid diamond Dec 2016 #88
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