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HopeAgain

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35. This is fine to point out IF

Fri Dec 30, 2016, 10:14 PM

Dec 2016

We are careful to cast the problems in terms of an errant advantaged group and not cast it in terms of being inherent in "whiteness" or even white culture. Would any similarly advantaged race have acted differently because they were not white? How could we assume so with any certainty? Described here is advantaged people acting selfishly, not white people "acting white."

I stopped having anything to do with somebody because he said that higher crime rates in inner cities were a result of "black culture." I hope no one similarly condemns "white culture."

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Elite White Men as The Problem [View all] sheshe2 Dec 2016 OP

Many white men see themselves as elite simply by virtue of biology and pigment. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #1

I've come to the conclusion that the white men among us have to undo this shit.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #2

Yes the onus is on them as well. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #3

Dang first the working class whites, now the elite whites. Is there jack_krass Dec 2016 #4

Do you want an honest answer? Uponthegears Dec 2016 #5

+1000 Useless in FL Dec 2016 #8

It's pretty clear. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #6

Yes, such a wonderful world we'd have without white people, right?.... In all seriousness, isnt it jack_krass Dec 2016 #9

Historically... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #10

Hey... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #13

Omg... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #12

JHFC Im not trying to minimize the suffering of blacks or jews jack_krass Dec 2016 #23

Sorry. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #30

Im against demonizing any group. I mentioned whites specifically due to the OP jack_krass Dec 2016 #43

First you said this in a post... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #50

"You make it sound like only whites as a group". No No No youve read that wrong.... jack_krass Dec 2016 #60

I think the key phrase is WhiteTara Dec 2016 #7

so your solution is? RegexReader Dec 2016 #68

I see no solution WhiteTara Dec 2016 #69

Most of the inventions we rely on in our everyday lives were invented by those men LittleBlue Dec 2016 #11

Are white men 'superior'? yallerdawg Dec 2016 #14

Hey babe! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #20

So we can assign blame by race but not achievements? LittleBlue Dec 2016 #24

I subjugate and demonize other races for centuries... yallerdawg Dec 2016 #31

Every single race has subjugated and demonized another LittleBlue Dec 2016 #32

I guess I missed "Poor Elitist White Male" class. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #36

It's not night where I live LittleBlue Dec 2016 #37

Really......................????????????????? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #16

I said most, not that women didn't invent anything LittleBlue Dec 2016 #26

They were the only people given the opportunity. Nt gollygee Dec 2016 #45

Well... TNProfessor Dec 2016 #57

White man here PatentlyDemocratic Dec 2016 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author milestogo Dec 2016 #18

Sigh... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #19

White man here too BBG Dec 2016 #25

So why not be consistent and rally against ALL stereotyping jack_krass Dec 2016 #67

"but the effect demonizes all white men" melman Dec 2016 #27

NO! sheshe2 Dec 2016 #64

They see themselves as entitled to the best paying jobs milestogo Dec 2016 #17

Here's a picture of the author oberliner Dec 2016 #21

Your point? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #22

A little more on Mr. Feagin. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #38

Thanks.... sheshe2 Dec 2016 #40

lolol melman Dec 2016 #28

Never fails when you don't read an OP. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #41

LMAO LittleBlue Dec 2016 #33

never read the OP....got it. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #42

Had you heard of him when you posted this OP? oberliner Dec 2016 #46

I read a lot and yes just found out about him, thanks to yallerdawg. sheshe2 Dec 2016 #53

There is a link to Feagin's new book in the second paragraph of the article you posted oberliner Dec 2016 #55

K&R Gothmog Dec 2016 #29

K & R johnp3907 Dec 2016 #34

This is fine to point out IF HopeAgain Dec 2016 #35

Perspective. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #39

BUT... HopeAgain Dec 2016 #47

Is Bill Clinton considered an "Elite White Male"? Joe Biden? Bernie Sanders? jalan48 Dec 2016 #44

In the context of the source material. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #48

So, the answer is no? jalan48 Dec 2016 #49

No? yallerdawg Dec 2016 #51

Clinton, Biden, Sanders? jalan48 Dec 2016 #52

In today's vernacular... cbreezen Dec 2016 #54

Well it does not say all white men, now does it? sheshe2 Dec 2016 #59

I am an INFP cbreezen Dec 2016 #62

hey, not all white men. mopinko Dec 2016 #56

Michael Moore wrote a book about how dangerously destructive powerful white men can be: tblue37 Dec 2016 #58

And thats just as stupid. There are elite jews and balcks too jack_krass Dec 2016 #66

This article is fatuous paranoia. gulliver Dec 2016 #61

K&R Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #63

Thanks Starry sheshe2 Dec 2016 #65