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socialist_n_TN

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97. Actually the Socialist Party USA is too right wing for me........

Thu Jan 5, 2017, 03:53 PM

Jan 2017

I belong to an international Trotskyist group. And no, Bernie is NOT a socialist and I didn't support him either.

That said, I've been following bourgeois politics in the US for 50 years or so and when I've voted, I've voted Democratic. I've NEVER voted for a Republican. NEVER! Not even Reagan when all those right wing Democrats (like Manchin) were bamboozled by him to the point where they were actually CALLED "Reagan Democrats".

I've been commenting on this forum since 2009 or 2010, not because I'm a Democrat, but because I'm left-wing. And this place USED to be more flexible to left-wing views than it has become lately. IOW, the "Underground" part of it was emphasized more than it apparently is today. In fact, I would say that the "Underground" part was what made this forum popular, NOT the "Democratic" part.

I post here because left-wing Democrats are just future Bolsheviks who still have illusions in capitalism.

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Sounds like a dumbfuck. President Obama is talking to DEMS bc all Cha Jan 2017 #1

I, for one, am SO EFFING GLAD theaocp Jan 2017 #2

Eff this blue effing dog. That is all. Oh...primary him, too. MaeScott Jan 2017 #50

Are you moving to WV to take him on? former9thward Jan 2017 #78

He was never a democrat. lsewpershad Jan 2017 #80

You're so right... #! $# him! Time to primary that useless ***! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2017 #88

Why does this guy have (D) next to his name? brush Jan 2017 #3

Certainly not deserving of it & a good question for Schumer to ask him. Alekzander Jan 2017 #6

Manchin needs to be primaried MrScorpio Jan 2017 #4

Hillary got 26.5 % of the vote in West Virginia and lost by 42 % Yupster Jan 2017 #40

He's still trying to find a way to combat Clinton's branford Jan 2017 #91

Manchin will lose to a republican in 2018 hollowdweller Jan 2017 #48

Do you predict he switches parties before 2018 then? Yupster Jan 2017 #73

If Democrats repeatedly try to punish him for taking positions branford Jan 2017 #92

If Manchin is primaried, then both senators will turn red. The only reason Manchin was elected was SlimJimmy Jan 2017 #90

Weakling. n/t Orsino Jan 2017 #5

I got my first hide in months for calling him an expletive. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #10

I got one yesterday for my Schumer malaise Jan 2017 #22

What did Chuckie do? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #24

Much earlier in the day malaise Jan 2017 #34

Ooppss... Shame on you, malaise. You should no better. pangaia Jan 2017 #83

LOL malaise Jan 2017 #95

Can someone please explain BigMin28 Jan 2017 #7

Everyone in WV calls themselves a Dem underpants Jan 2017 #28

"why do we let" former9thward Jan 2017 #79

Joe Minchin, senator in a coal country state DK504 Jan 2017 #8

The problem is... Else You Are Mad Jan 2017 #66

I can't in good conscience call Manchin a Democrat. nt DLevine Jan 2017 #9

Oh fuck you and your piece of shit corrupt daughter too. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2017 #11

Be careful, compadre... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #21

Given who Manchin's daughter is, this is not surprising at all. eom guillaumeb Jan 2017 #12

That is right forgot about that. They even had hearings on her own scandal ripping off people with Alekzander Jan 2017 #17

Manchin family values? guillaumeb Jan 2017 #67

Exactly & I think he should have to pay for what he is doing as well as his daughter. Alekzander Jan 2017 #68

and that was always my concern. It wasn't that we only needed to convince 3 republicans, people still_one Jan 2017 #13

Fuck you, Manchin. Where you breathe. (nt) Paladin Jan 2017 #14

I lulz'd KG Jan 2017 #15

We all knew Trump can always count on this coward's vote Thrill Jan 2017 #16

What kind of an argument is that? surrealAmerican Jan 2017 #18

The R's will talk to him. They will love a few D votes so their health care repeal/maybe replace kelly1mm Jan 2017 #39

"If anyone listened and paid attention to what the panader0 Jan 2017 #19

K & R edhopper Jan 2017 #26

How many DU rules being broken in this thread? superpatriotman Jan 2017 #20

NOT ENOUGH have been broken for this turncoat! mfcorey1 Jan 2017 #23

Those rules apply to real Dems edhopper Jan 2017 #25

He is relaying an article that is reporting on a particular Senator. That is not a TOS violation as still_one Jan 2017 #30

He's talking about the posts. SaschaHM Jan 2017 #33

Thanks, I was on a different context. still_one Jan 2017 #49

Manchin appears to be a Dem in name only. Now name "what" violations I have broken Alekzander Jan 2017 #31

50 state party! SaschaHM Jan 2017 #36

Your passionate concern is touching. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #45

lots, imho mopinko Jan 2017 #47

LOL PDittie Jan 2017 #71

I predict he jumps parties in the near future Lee-Lee Jan 2017 #94

Fuck Manchin and his greedy clan. GeorgeGist Jan 2017 #27

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #29

Sounds like we've found our next Joe Liebermann... Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #32

He's getting ready to jump ship and become Bettie Jan 2017 #35

His state voted 70% for Trump crazycatlady Jan 2017 #37

*WEASEL* - he went on to claim he's FOR the ACA benefitting his W.VA constituents UTUSN Jan 2017 #38

Get used to about 2 more years of him siding more with Trump/Repubs inwiththenew Jan 2017 #41

So.......... socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 #42

Yeah, and it's why I cringe when told I have to vote for ANYONE with a "D" Nay Jan 2017 #58

+1 nt riderinthestorm Jan 2017 #86

Bernie is not actually a Democrat. branford Jan 2017 #93

Actually the Socialist Party USA is too right wing for me........ socialist_n_TN Jan 2017 #97

This message was self-deleted by its author SaschaHM Jan 2017 #43

Clinton had Zell Miller, and Obama has Joe Manchin. I get it. They both feel they're representing Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #44

Schumer Mentioned Manchin Today In Presser on ACA otohara Jan 2017 #46

This is the kind of "leadership" we can expect from Schumer? Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #51

The RepubliCons want Dems to help them.. coco22 Jan 2017 #52

Manchin isn't going because he is a CON and.. coco22 Jan 2017 #53

WTF?! PragmaticLiberal Jan 2017 #54

Ha ha ha JustAnotherGen Jan 2017 #55

Face it, folks -- Hell Hath No Fury Jan 2017 #56

You do understand that there's a difference between the Democratic primary electorate mythology Jan 2017 #87

Eisenhower Conservatives don't exist anymore, Joe. HughBeaumont Jan 2017 #57

But the label is more important, or so I've been told here repeatedly. alarimer Jan 2017 #69

You think Bernie Sanders would win a general election in West Virginia ? crazycatlady Jan 2017 #74

Seems like Manchin is TERRIFIED Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2017 #59

Personally, Manchin strikes me as more of a Blanche Lincoln Democrat. TonyPDX Jan 2017 #63

Whatever he is Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2017 #64

Agreed. TonyPDX Jan 2017 #65

fuck Manchin bigtree Jan 2017 #60

Can't wait till this DINO is gone. Tatiana Jan 2017 #61

He is just a Republican itcfish Jan 2017 #62

Joe Manchin is no more a Democrat than I'm a Republican. Vinca Jan 2017 #70

Well at least he's officially a member of the Democratic party Vermijelli Jan 2017 #72

CNN had a segment about widows of coal miners losing ACA benefits oasis Jan 2017 #75

But we're supposed to embrace our blue dogs. MadamPresident Jan 2017 #76

How many of his constituents suffer from black lung disease and depend upon ACA? no_hypocrisy Jan 2017 #77

But he IS a "Democrat." Right? pangaia Jan 2017 #81

The REASON 50% of eligible voters don't vote is because they think there is NO DIFFERENCE between TrollBuster9090 Jan 2017 #82

He should become a Republican officially bravenak Jan 2017 #84

do remember DonCoquixote Jan 2017 #85

I knew it was gonna be Manchin before I clicked. KamaAina Jan 2017 #89

So ask him- what's your plan? n2doc Jan 2017 #96