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regnaD kciN

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175. That's the big thing...

Mon Jan 23, 2017, 05:42 AM

Jan 2017

Even if your friend's story is correct, and enough comes out that even a Republican-dominated House and Senate decide that it is in their political interest to cut bait and go with Pence...

...remember that one of the key moments during the last stages of the Watergate drama, as the House committee voted for impeachment and the release of the White House tapes made it certain that the Senate would convict, was that Chief of Staff Alexander Haig went secretly to the Joint Chiefs of the armed forces, and got their agreement that they would not follow any orders from their Commander-in-Chief to impose martial law, because Haig was convinced there was a real possibility Nixon would do so to keep himself in power.

Who would be Haig this time around? I doubt you'd find any in this administration.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 OP

Thank you! jaxind Jan 2017 #1

Elijah Cummings said the same thing basically, that what he knows would SHOCK the Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #2

Democrats should quit fucking around and go public Orrex Jan 2017 #5

I second that motion. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #12

Third! Get off the frickin' pot, and be patriotic! WinkyDink Jan 2017 #95

Fourth! About time this russian meddling is finally revealed. onetexan Jan 2017 #108

fifth! Trump wants an investigation, let him have it! wordpix Jan 2017 #221

at some point, Abe Lincoln had to say f--k decorum, it's on wordpix Jan 2017 #222

Someone I talk to in DC media said it would be leaked before the Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #16

Lookie DK504 Jan 2017 #85

My theory? They're paid too well to jeopardize the paydays. WinkyDink Jan 2017 #96

if it's classified or leaking would jeopardize the investigation wordpix Jan 2017 #223

I don't get it either. Classified info is anonymously leaked all the time brush Jan 2017 #26

Comey needs to be locked up with trump onetexan Jan 2017 #107

YES! brush Jan 2017 #127

Pence will pardon both of them, just like Ford pardoned Nixon. George II Jan 2017 #156

I think there's a wole gang 2naSalit Jan 2017 #166

it would be political suicide to pardon someone convicted of treason. tomp Jan 2017 #179

True, but if you recall Ford pardoned Nixon even before he was indicted for anything.... George II Jan 2017 #182

Trump/Putin/Russia tainted the election Prez Ryan bigbrother05 Jan 2017 #193

let's get this straight: if Trump is removed, Pence is in as "Acting President" wordpix Jan 2017 #224

He's president until the next election, and the Senate gets to pick his vice president. George II Jan 2017 #226

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Jan 2017 #36

On the real, fuck all the dumb shit uponit7771 Jan 2017 #44

Same here, tired of hearing if we only knew. Alekzander Jan 2017 #60

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That would protect whomever does it from repercutions. drray23 Jan 2017 #72

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No, Obama is a Constitutional scholar. I believe they are doing what is necessary KittyWampus Jan 2017 #119

I generally trust Obama Orrex Jan 2017 #134

Suppose leaking jeopardized the case being built? KittyWampus Jan 2017 #136

I'm fine with waiting for them to build a solid case n/t TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #154

This BadgerMom Jan 2017 #155

Then Democrats should shut their goddamn mouths about it Orrex Jan 2017 #157

It appears they are in a no-win situation. The best they can do is telegraph things KittyWampus Jan 2017 #192

Started today tavalon Jan 2017 #197

GOOD! calimary Jan 2017 #204

They are utterly tin-eared about it, though Orrex Jan 2017 #199

Yeah. And gee, where is Wikileaks? Don't bother - we all know the answer to that one. calimary Jan 2017 #205

That's what I'm hoping. They are being very careful not to blow this Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2017 #141

Gloves off! Fritz Walter Jan 2017 #57

And Maxine Waters alluded to it in some comments..no specifics...you have to ready between the lines iluvtennis Jan 2017 #165

I'm sure there are lots in the press who have gotten a whiff of this. Dream Girl Jan 2017 #3

Journalistic careers will be built on investigative reporting, as Woodward & Bernstein did. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2017 #32

Thank you for telling us! Most deeply appreciated. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2017 #4

I also read that impeachment can come from the judiciary or start there? meadowlark5 Jan 2017 #6

Not a chance in hell KentuckyWoman Jan 2017 #39

Robert Reich posted on Facebook yesterday justiceischeap Jan 2017 #48

Oh great, Pence. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #53

Great sign in Nashville yesterday. "Mike Pence Also Sucks" redstateblues Jan 2017 #71

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He does, he's worse. SammyWinstonJack Jan 2017 #80

Thing is Pence doesn't have the same cilla4progress Jan 2017 #86

He could do less damage as a *candidate*... regnaD kciN Jan 2017 #171

Don't Agree ProfessorGAC Jan 2017 #180

I tend to agree NewJeffCT Jan 2017 #200

I kinda doubt that. He'd have the wind at his back with a friendly and fawning Congress. calimary Jan 2017 #207

please do not compare cheeto favorably to any human, no matter how nasty. mopinko Jan 2017 #110

He does suck and he's just as big of a patsy at Trump meadowlark5 Jan 2017 #82

He doesn't have trump's gag cilla4progress Jan 2017 #126

I'm thinking, literally. WinkyDink Jan 2017 #97

Reminder: they got rid of VP Agnew before Nixon. ginnyinWI Jan 2017 #201

That makes sense to me. Grammy23 Jan 2017 #73

I have felt like I was living in a Ludlum novel for months Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #76

Nope and if I was writing a spy novel justiceischeap Jan 2017 #88

She's be the initial suspect but ultimately the diversion. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #120

No. They didn't just suddenly fall in love with him. They're just being Machiavellian. calimary Jan 2017 #203

No, only the House can start impeachment proceedings. n/t totodeinhere Jan 2017 #104

Impeachment must start in congress, the house specifically n/t Fiendish Thingy Jan 2017 #144

Well, that just put a smile on my face. Cheers. Missn-Hitch Jan 2017 #7

I hope so! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2017 #8

K & R malaise Jan 2017 #9

I read your post twice. I have felt this will happen for a long time. I only wish it would happen TrekLuver Jan 2017 #10

I only wish it had happened before the election! regnaD kciN Jan 2017 #172

I was visiting my folks during Nixon's campaign Warpy Jan 2017 #11

+infinity. To the power of infinity. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2017 #17

thanks. nt Sunny05 Jan 2017 #19

Not to mention the deliberate undermining of peace talks so more Americans died in Vietnam. nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #22

hopefully there are canaries in bdamomma Jan 2017 #35

TOTALLY AGREE!! Problem is, onetexan Jan 2017 #109

Absolutely. Warpy Jan 2017 #113

Fasten your seat belts my friends. oasis Jan 2017 #13

I appreciate this information, pacifist Patriot. democrank Jan 2017 #14

These things move darn slow. Wellstone ruled Jan 2017 #15

I think there's a reason Vegas has his odds at last 6 months at 1 in 4... NotThisTime Jan 2017 #18

K&R for visibility! nt tblue37 Jan 2017 #20

Thank you! nt Sunny05 Jan 2017 #21

Tinkle tinkle little czar progree Jan 2017 #23

I love, love, love this!!! PatSeg Jan 2017 #40

this should be a full page ad........lol KewlKat Jan 2017 #138

Not sure if I should saidsimplesimon Jan 2017 #24

Comey was probably pressured by Giuliani and his friends. octoberlib Jan 2017 #25

And in so doing, Giuliani violated the law, as did those members of the FBI ffr Jan 2017 #29

Yes thank you bdamomma Jan 2017 #27

K&R... spanone Jan 2017 #28

Wow PatSeg Jan 2017 #30

"Annie girl, this is going to make Watergate look like pocketing a candy bar at 7-Eleven." bagelsforbreakfast Jan 2017 #31

I truly hope this comes out before radical noodle Jan 2017 #33

me too bdamomma Jan 2017 #37

Watergate well over 40 went to jail or were convicted. gordianot Jan 2017 #34

K&R bdamomma Jan 2017 #38

K&R! mvd Jan 2017 #41

That is pretty much exactly what Dem members of Congress said. Think on this. appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #42

That gives me hope. Vinca Jan 2017 #43

This can't go public soon enough! nt procon Jan 2017 #45

Yep! I want to see trump, Conway, Spicer and all the other abettors perp walked. brush Jan 2017 #130

Friend stories in the FBI really are pointless beachbum bob Jan 2017 #46

They keep people's hopes up, at least. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #50

I found it interesting and am glad it was posted. Squinch Jan 2017 #54

Ok Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #61

You're posts have always been even-keeled and you're not an "attention wh*re" KittyWampus Jan 2017 #121

Please, please this needs to come out soon. It takes no time to destroy things mnhtnbb Jan 2017 #47

I hope everyone is being tight-lipped in order not to jeopardize things. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #49

I'm thinking the same thing. I hope they take their time and make their case a sure thing. Squinch Jan 2017 #52

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Chuch Schumer is looking tired this past week. And he's got experience staff. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #122

From Robert Reich on Facebook: justiceischeap Jan 2017 #51

exactly - it's all part of the plan Locrian Jan 2017 #56

What sucks about watergate though is the Republicans were able to largely emerge unscathed and cstanleytech Jan 2017 #55

They lost the 1976 election, but came back in 1980 with a vengence. LeftInTX Jan 2017 #90

Exactly. cstanleytech Jan 2017 #117

Because Reagan traded arms for hostages. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #123

All the more reason volstork Jan 2017 #143

I hope your friend is right, but... Adrahil Jan 2017 #58

I wonder if your friend was suggesting that the FBI would defy such an order. pnwmom Jan 2017 #59

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I hope so! n/t pnwmom Jan 2017 #69

My limited understanding is he could potentially scuttle investigations but it'd be known publically KittyWampus Jan 2017 #125

re cia -- wondering if that is why he went there yesterday orleans Jan 2017 #167

If true, why didn't Nixon halt the Watergate investigation? missingfink Jan 2017 #150

The short answer is that John Dean, the White House counsel, pnwmom Jan 2017 #158

Remember, one of the big things about Watergate... regnaD kciN Jan 2017 #173

Yes, that is the problem. Watergate is not much of a precedent. n/t pnwmom Jan 2017 #178

He tried to. Remeber the Friday Night Massacre? Firing the Att. General, etc.? SharonAnn Jan 2017 #183

He tried ...remember the Saturday night massacre SticksnStones Jan 2017 #185

And guess who finally fired Cox? None other than then-Solicitor General Robert Eichmann Bork - nt KingCharlemagne Jan 2017 #227

I sure hope so Farmgirl1961 Jan 2017 #62

Trump is a traitor. They need to look at all of his underlings also. UCmeNdc Jan 2017 #64

I worry about what Trump will do if he thinks the jig is up. (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 2017 #66

Legitimate concern in my opinion. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #68

That's the big thing... regnaD kciN Jan 2017 #175

Wow SunSeeker Jan 2017 #70

Yes and no. I think it just confirms... Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #74

if you pocket a candy bar at 7-Eleven while black, SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2017 #75

The firehose goes drip drip drip before it gets turned on full blast. Thank you, PP Hekate Jan 2017 #77

Oh he can order it. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #79

You can call it kvetching, I call it rightly losing patience. Boomerproud Jan 2017 #91

As a fellow Boomer, you know this: apparently our work here is NOT done, but we do know how Hekate Jan 2017 #94

Thank you. "Our work here is not done." We are the Protesting Generation; may we always tell WinkyDink Jan 2017 #99

I saw several versions of that statement on posters at Saturday's L.A. Women's March. calimary Jan 2017 #208

His supporters won't believe it JDC Jan 2017 #81

About leaking the info Johnny2X2X Jan 2017 #84

A sitting president cannot be prosecuted. The only recourse would be impeachment which totodeinhere Jan 2017 #102

I disagree leftieNanner Jan 2017 #115

Either way, it would be "Lets Make a Deal" time. Buns_of_Fire Jan 2017 #190

I like it! leftieNanner Jan 2017 #229

What does he think of Comey? HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #87

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Today's televised interaction between the two was interesting True Dough Jan 2017 #168

More than a handshake and back pat! He blew Comey a kiss (!) and then tblue37 Jan 2017 #174

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I doubt it gwheezie Jan 2017 #89

Kick Rustyeye77 Jan 2017 #92

I needed a pick me up mrs_p Jan 2017 #93

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Whoa! Stellar Jan 2017 #98

I really think Trump will be Impeached and Removed from Office HockeyMom Jan 2017 #100

Golden showers bring... progree Jan 2017 #103

Your scenario would not be a win for us. Yes, it would be gratifying to see Trump totodeinhere Jan 2017 #106

The only advantage with Pence... regnaD kciN Jan 2017 #176

I agree. I don't think there is any way Pence would win a second term. smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #188

Perhaps, but many of us myself included didn't think that there was any way Trump would totodeinhere Jan 2017 #211

Gee... what a choice. Rustyeye77 Jan 2017 #220

I tell you what, they go after Medicare and SSecurity, you want to see a march? YOHABLO Jan 2017 #111

Cool story, bro pnwest Jan 2017 #112

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:) sis :) pnwest Jan 2017 #140

Punishment should be mandatory for The Wizard Jan 2017 #114

The sooner the BETTER. Maru Kitteh Jan 2017 #116

The sooner the better. Then the destruction will obviously from the GOP establishment SharonAnn Jan 2017 #187

Fitzmas. Itchinjim Jan 2017 #118

Does it have to coincide with christmas? Tiggeroshii Jan 2017 #124

Some here have long memories... regnaD kciN Jan 2017 #177

Freaking Republicans selling America out to the Russians Achilleaze Jan 2017 #128

What if it comes out there was irrefutable evidence that the election was hacked in his favor? kimbutgar Jan 2017 #129

Bookmarked with hope. Most of these threads never pan out and noone ever comes back & explains why. MadDAsHell Jan 2017 #131

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yeah Trump et al triron Jan 2017 #132

kick for visibility triron Jan 2017 #133

The time to go public will be very clear..I believe it is not the time. Stuart G Jan 2017 #139

I agree Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #149

I will wait 48 business hours. AngryAmish Jan 2017 #142

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Because I am drunk and watching the hockey game. AngryAmish Jan 2017 #153

Come on, you know we WANT it to mean something like Benedict Donald going to jail and living uponit7771 Jan 2017 #160

Don't take any of it personally, Annie True Dough Jan 2017 #170

So you figure in the next week ? Rustyeye77 Jan 2017 #196

before W got out of bed on a Sunday, the Baby Bush admin made Watergate look like stealing candy yurbud Jan 2017 #145

Just remember, Watergate took over two years to unfold Fiendish Thingy Jan 2017 #146

I remember stories like this about W too IronLionZion Jan 2017 #147

Yep Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #151

and keepthemhonestO Jan 2017 #152

WOW! blue-wave Jan 2017 #159

here's hoping triron Jan 2017 #162

same here Rustyeye77 Jan 2017 #219

Put that together with this blog post and we've got some deep stuff happening csziggy Jan 2017 #161

Love this article. Don't know if true, but very plausible and fascinating. SharonAnn Jan 2017 #186

We can't wait, Annie girl! elleng Jan 2017 #163

You know, I'm glad you posted this. I hope your friend is OK and PatrickforO Jan 2017 #164

If tRumP is removed, Pence should not be able to waltz in to the White House. ecstatic Jan 2017 #169

God only knows how many more votes and E.C. votes she would have had w/out ..... Botany Jan 2017 #189

Here's what I've been thinking. drm604 Jan 2017 #181

EPIC KICK Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #184

I want to believe.... but remember Fritzmas? Nt California_Republic Jan 2017 #191

I would think if this was true, the GOP would already be in CYA mode... cbdo2007 Jan 2017 #195

"Annie girl, this is going to make Watergate look like pocketing a candy bar at 7-Eleven" Roy Rolling Jan 2017 #198

This is all BULL! Notice how nothing has changed. GOP are not backing away from Grabber-in-Chief. Liberal In Red State Jan 2017 #202

Once they get his income tax, he will resign. Jim Beard Jan 2017 #206

He will fight that... Rustyeye77 Jan 2017 #230

Didn't we learn there a rogue element within FBI? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2017 #209

K&R red dog 1 Jan 2017 #210

Question... lisa58 Jan 2017 #212

I had a lot of questions he refused to answer. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #213

Understood...just that... lisa58 Jan 2017 #215

Information is a card you keep up your sleeve GreenEyedLefty Jan 2017 #214

tell your friend we are all waiting. Rustyeye77 Jan 2017 #216

Question: If the FBI and Russia itcfish Jan 2017 #217

I have been wondering the same thing. Pacifist Patriot Jan 2017 #218

Then we'd have POTUS Paul Ryan. bathroommonkey76 Jan 2017 #225

Gee... who's worse ? Rustyeye77 Jan 2017 #231

Why would your friend necessarily know any more than any of us? Is he KingCharlemagne Jan 2017 #228

kick Rustyeye77 Jan 2017 #232

IS THIS THREAD STILL RELEVANT ??? trueblue2007 Feb 2017 #233