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TlalocW

(15,675 posts)
42. So, let me get this straight...
Mon Jun 25, 2012, 12:12 AM
Jun 2012

There are NO groups that you have an ideological/political difference with where you would prefer that a member of - one that is likely going to push that group's agenda - NOT get into office? Then there is no reason to oppose republicans; no reason to be a democrat, etc. I didn't like Bush partly because he was an evangelical Christian who was going to and did push their agenda - and the country paid for it. Romney by both virtue of his being a conservative Mormon as well as beholden to the religiously insane branch of Christianity (who are putting aside their insistence that religion always matters when it comes to who the president is) means working against abortion rights, gay rights, women rights, etc.

Guess what? I have a problem with certain orthodox Jews like Rabbi Yehuda Levin who - ironically - blames all society's ills on a single group (homosexuals), and I wouldn't want him or any of his followers to get elected either.

And the other side feels the same way about us - dividing us up religiously and in other ways and doesn't want, "those kind," running things. That's politics.

However, I believe I'm on the side that wants everyone to be able to live their lives, take part in their religion (or non-religion), etc. as they want to, and that they should be free from other groups trying to impose their religious beliefs onto others through law (ie homosexuals can't marry; their religion trumps all others, etc.) I honestly don't care what religion or non-religion a person follows, but I'm not going to be ashamed when I make qualified guesses that if a member of a certain religion or other group, if elected, would work against causes that are important to me... especially when both that group and he publicly state that they're going to. I'm not naive.

So why don't you take the race/religion card you're trying to play against me, roll it up real tight, and shove it up your ass (if you can fit it there what with your head being in the way)?

TlalocW

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Works for me TlalocW Jun 2012 #1
really? how do you feel about "them Jews running things" ? crazyjoe Jun 2012 #41
So, let me get this straight... TlalocW Jun 2012 #42
Well, if it's okay not to vote for someone who "might" be a Muslim rocktivity Jun 2012 #2
What about a Mormon with absolutely no qualifications whatsoever? Scootaloo Jun 2012 #3
The real question is Kalidurga Jun 2012 #4
Mormon money oppresses gays and payback is a bitch. Watch the Utah presidential primary, dimbear Jun 2012 #5
That is a huge chunk of the 1/4 that are undecided. WingDinger Jun 2012 #6
I think it's a lot higher than that. People lie about that kind of stuff with pollsters RB TexLa Jun 2012 #7
No way I'd vote for anyone who belongs to a cult. roamer65 Jun 2012 #8
Do you belong... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2012 #11
Absolutely not. roamer65 Jun 2012 #16
Okay... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2012 #19
The only difference between a religion & a cult HarveyDarkey Jun 2012 #25
I thought the difference was that "mainstream" religions have more real-estate! n/t backscatter712 Jun 2012 #36
repubs are more open to voting for a morman wilt the stilt Jun 2012 #9
we know there was strong resistance in the GOP to Romney in primaries banned from Kos Jun 2012 #12
I'll vote for a leftist Mormon. Zalatix Jun 2012 #10
Why? eldonk Jun 2012 #15
I am just a liberal but I will try to answer. banned from Kos Jun 2012 #18
Leave it to the Conservative Catholic Church. Stuart G Jun 2012 #37
What kind of America do you want? eldonk Jun 2012 #13
Wow. Sounds like you agree with the republicans Kingofalldems Jun 2012 #14
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #20
Just all wrong. Obama has enacted 17 tax cuts and credits for small business. banned from Kos Jun 2012 #22
I owned my own business for 35 years and OKNancy Jun 2012 #24
My husband lives them too! JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #35
I'm sorry but you sound like a die-hard Republican to me OKNancy Jun 2012 #21
Hell no--this is Democratic Underground. If you're not prepared to support Democrats for election MADem Jun 2012 #31
Yes, and even more wouldn't vote for a well qualified black man--so it's a mute point. WI_DEM Jun 2012 #17
Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #23
If you aren't JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #27
Moot point, not mute. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #26
Thanks JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #28
Well, our "independent thinker" diehard conservative Republican on this thread has been MADem Jun 2012 #32
you mean "grammar" nazi :-p Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #34
Yep, I did. HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #38
Probably a lot of overlap in the two groups. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #29
There are those who "admit" and those who don't want to seem like bigots, so they lie. MADem Jun 2012 #30
the more interesting numbers from that poll: 43% wouldn't vote for an atheist. Spider Jerusalem Jun 2012 #33
Well, Mormons do like to play that "persecution" angle Tom Ripley Jun 2012 #39
I wonder if that's more or less than who wouldn't vote for a well-qualified black guy? nt OneTenthofOnePercent Jun 2012 #40
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