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In reply to the discussion: The beginning of the end? [View all]IamFortunesFool
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I like to keep an ear open to the millings and mood of the people as much as possible. It is through this lens, watching the political theater manifest into the words and actions of regular people, that we may get at the heart of what is motivating the manipulations of their provocateurs, and extrapolate what are the results they likely want to achieve. All reverse-engineering is admittedly fraught with and executed by assumptions, but those assumptions can be informed and made confidently based on known related maters/cases, and through the application of deductive reasoning and logic tools like Occom's razor.
The people, LEFT AND RIGHT, are all speaking of conspiracy. I live in the south, and the people here are grumbling with resentment over what they believe are protests and social unrest being bankrolled by George Soros, with consultation from the Clinton's and a handful of their other favorite liberal punching bags sprinkled on for good measure. They believe that the millennial generation has been brainwashed by propaganda from Hollywood and that the people demonstrating are either one of these two types: anarchist funded by the Soros cabal to sow unrest and upheaval, or mindless BernieBro servants of pop culture. The general consensus is that the people (those protesting) don't get it, and don't count as real Americans. At the same time, these same conservative are polarizing among themselves over the actions and chaos of the administration. There are those who are ecstatic and elated over Trump throwing monkey wrenches and grenades all over and making good on his myriad and maddening campaign promises. Conversely, there are those who foolishly thought Trump would somehow normalize and govern with some semblance of prestige and respect for our institutions of government. Those folks are now starting to realize their guilt, but are still too stubbornly proud to do much but whisper about it to sympathetic minds. They are dumbfounded by Trump's warmness to Putin, and his continuing reality show approach to everything he does. These two factions are aware of and horrified at each other, but they are still too allied against the Democrats and liberalism to meaningfully break rank publicly...but the divisions are real and festering nonetheless.
This thread is a fantastic example of the most leftists take on the conspiracy, and one which I happen to believe is immeasurably better researched and reasoned than any of the conspiracy tropes on the right. That said, the evidence to me points to a transition from operational to institutional. What I mean by that is that at some point, if the Dominion's psy-opps are successful, they will no longer need active agents creating violence within previously peaceful resistance, as the social turmoil will be breeding violence of its own accord, and their operation will have been a success. I believe we are at that point. I would wager that the low scale "riot" behavior at Berkeley last night was organic. If it had happened in a more conservative place, like Chattanooga, Birmingham, or Little Rock, then I would perhaps suspect a dark hand. There is enough cultural support at Berkeley for that sort of rabble to happen as a natural consequence of the very real anger we all feel. There is no such consensus in the heartland and south. When we start seeing violence erupt there, it will signify either the agents of the Dominion staging the type of "false flags" you proposed, or it will mean that organic social violence has become pervasive and our country is on the brink of social war and militarized police rule.
Standing Rock will be a flash point for all of this. When things go bad there, and they inevitably will, the rest of the country will follow suite.