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dawg

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22. Um .... someone cautious like me.

Thu Dec 29, 2011, 04:04 PM

Dec 2011

I was tempted to say President Obama, because of the very incrementalist approach he has taken on some key issues, but decided it would be less divisive to hang this label on myself instead.

Under the old paradigm, liberals wanted big, bold changes for the better. Conservatives argued that existing systems evolved that way for a reason, and that abrupt changes are likely to cause more harm than good. Conservatives argue for maintaining the status quo, or, when really needed, making slow incremental reforms.

Under the old definition, President Obama and I are both conservatives. (Him more than me )

But the Republican Party has stood that whole concept on its ear. Today, conservatism means economic royalism, and there are no "good" ones.

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I've never seen them crying over it. I'm the one crying over it here. RZM Dec 2011 #44

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You might see endorsements of violence HangOnKids Dec 2011 #52

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That's how you're going to try to justify it? RZM Dec 2011 #51

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Yup, I've lost one myself not too long ago. Zalatix Dec 2011 #63

Yup, got a problem with that? Zalatix Dec 2011 #62

If that's your opinion, fine RZM Dec 2011 #65

The idea that government should stay out of our private lives... randome Dec 2011 #5

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Depends on if you are talking about a regular person or public servant RZM Dec 2011 #7

most intelligent post i've read all day (including my own) maggiesfarmer Dec 2011 #27

Thanks! RZM Dec 2011 #29

Technically, a liberal Scootaloo Dec 2011 #8

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There aren't any. Jazzgirl Dec 2011 #10

A good conservative would be the type that helped LBJ get civil rights and Great Society legislation totodeinhere Dec 2011 #11

what passes for conservatism right now ain't conservative rurallib Dec 2011 #12

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It's a person who is born angry, envious, filled with hatred, suspicious, authoritarian, Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #16

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Good Conservative (n) An environmentally responsible liberal; a liberal that uses resources frugally Zorra Dec 2011 #21

Um .... someone cautious like me. dawg Dec 2011 #22

nice post - well thought out maggiesfarmer Dec 2011 #28

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one that doesn't vote or votes Democratic proud patriot Dec 2011 #26

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I think we're very confused on how to classify ourselves these days. Neoma Dec 2011 #66

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Reformed can be pretty awesome, they often have passion. TheKentuckian Dec 2011 #68

an oxymoron nt barbtries Dec 2011 #69