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stevedeshazer

(21,653 posts)
Wed Jun 27, 2012, 07:22 PM Jun 2012

I hope the Supreme Court kills the Affordable Health Care Act. ALL of it. [View all]

A good chunk of voters will be really pissed. The Republicans have NO alternative.

Denial of benefits due to pre-existing conditions. Kids 26 and under kicked off their parents' health care insurance. Small businesses don't get their tax credits for insuring their employees.

Single payer is back on the table, folks. Democrats, IF they seize on this, can make some serious political hay out of this.

Am I wrong? Aren't we better off in the long run here? We might just get single payer out of this?!

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There's a lot of death and pain to be had between annabanana Jun 2012 #1
Exactly.... Many will die if this happens. hlthe2b Jun 2012 #3
Many more will die if we DON'T. n/t stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #14
You do know "thrown out by SCOTUS" usually means "doesn't get touched for decades," right? Posteritatis Jun 2012 #44
Exactly. nt woo me with science Jun 2012 #53
No, the billions health insurance are mandated to refund was the poison pill for private insurance. freshwest Jun 2012 #61
Great Analysis. Hoyt Jun 2012 #77
Many are already going to die Pab Sungenis Jun 2012 #52
Exactly. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #62
please explain how the SC throwing this out will make the repukes vote for single payer. dionysus Jun 2012 #71
I want to hear too. Whisp Jun 2012 #108
And quite a few already have kenny blankenship Jun 2012 #79
I think you're wrong taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #2
Thanks, that's what I'm asking. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #7
I think you underestimate how cruel republicans are taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #13
And present day Democrats are unrealiably too neo-liberal mazzarro Jun 2012 #8
Agreed Sherman A1 Jun 2012 #105
I'm not sure if I agree sadbear Jun 2012 #4
We went from nothing to Medicare. What's the difference? leftstreet Jun 2012 #23
About 50 years. sadbear Jun 2012 #24
Starting something new nobodyspecial Jun 2012 #38
so you are saying I should die? demtenjeep Jun 2012 #5
Of course not. n/t stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #9
When my Niece is dying of her pre-existing condition, I'm sure she will JoePhilly Jun 2012 #6
I want a health care system that covers your niece and everyone else regardless of pre-ex conditions stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #12
She may not live long enough for your solution. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #18
I'm really sorry to learn that. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #22
My Neice's cancer is was a cancer of the neurons. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #117
And what will you say when she dies DevonRex Jun 2012 #19
the people who make these arguments most likely never stand to suffer the consequences of such bold dionysus Jun 2012 #70
Exactly. Nor do they have family members DevonRex Jun 2012 #73
Funny thing about calling for something to happen; you get to accept the consequences of it. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2012 #45
Wow. You know that wasn't the intent. Can't you just express gateley Jun 2012 #21
If it is struck down, my neice will lose her insurance. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #25
You were extremely civil. DevonRex Jun 2012 #26
I understand, but it could have been presented in a more civil tone. gateley Jun 2012 #116
He was far more civil than I would have been. MineralMan Jun 2012 #37
BS. Think bigger. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #40
Single payer will not be on the table. I don't know what your smoking. upaloopa Jun 2012 #10
I am sick to death of you Debbie Downers proclaiming that Single Payer kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #56
Thank you. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #60
People Do Have Insurance, But w/o ACA, the Insurance Doesn't Pay for "Preexisting Conditions" AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #85
Where do the votes for single payer come from?? chowder66 Jun 2012 #11
You. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #41
Believe me..it has my vote chowder66 Jun 2012 #42
I Am Not in Congress. Neither Are You AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #82
From very frightened Congresscritters once less than half the populace has any medical insurance kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #57
Yes you are wrong One of the 99 Jun 2012 #15
+1 Control-Z Jun 2012 #31
Maybe not 50 or 60 years. It's been happening about every 20 years. bornskeptic Jun 2012 #50
But the ones in the past were political defeats One of the 99 Jun 2012 #109
Another Debbie Downer here to piss in our Wheaties and proclaim kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #59
So, attacking the "Debbie Downers"... Wait Wut Jun 2012 #106
Never said Healthcare reform is dead One of the 99 Jun 2012 #112
Health care costs would be at or near 100% of GDP and/or only a small minority TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #75
The assertion that the supreme court declaring healthcare reform One of the 99 Jun 2012 #111
That will "kill" alot of innocent individuals in the process. DCBob Jun 2012 #16
We could have had, SHOULD have had single payer this time. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #17
the CASE for single payer becomes stronger, but the current lineup in congress makes it impossible unblock Jun 2012 #20
When Hillary's plan went down in 1993 it only took 17 years for another try. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #27
I believe the Dems will put up single payer..... matmar Jun 2012 #28
I don't. ellie Jun 2012 #29
I think you're wrong. Control-Z Jun 2012 #30
republicans have the alternative they have now. ignore their constituents spanone Jun 2012 #32
I understand where you are coming from Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #33
Those things you mentioned will stay in place regardless Puzzledtraveller Jun 2012 #34
I believe the fastest way to single payer will be for employers to stop offering health insurance riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #35
Republicans won't ever allow single payer. They do have an alternative Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #36
Yeah, thousands, tens of thousands, potentially hundreds of thousands and possibly millions... GarroHorus Jun 2012 #39
Do you currently have health insurance coverage? NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #43
Yes. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #64
I admire your honesty NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #99
Yea another 20 years of escalating costs and decreasing services (except for the wealthy) salin Jun 2012 #46
You are overestimating the average voter. NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #47
Back to nothing at all while we hash out getting it "perfect?" Chorophyll Jun 2012 #48
You're entitled to your opinion but for the record I hope you're wrong Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2012 #49
Of course it would be a huge disaster. It's not like I'm rooting for sick people to die. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #65
I agree Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2012 #68
Too many will have to suffer liberal N proud Jun 2012 #51
You make a good point... immoderate Jun 2012 #54
I fervently wish for Single Payer some day, and I agree that overturning ACA kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #55
Well . . . MOMFUDSKI Jun 2012 #58
You have to break some eggs to make a cake, right? liberalmuse Jun 2012 #63
"willing to sacrifice human beings to line their pockets" is exactly what this scam is set up to do. TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #95
No. Stop being so willing to let Americans die. aquart Jun 2012 #66
Really? stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #67
In all fairness - He is hoping for quick passage of Single Payer .... Trajan Jun 2012 #84
Of course he's not demanding people die, but... TreasonousBastard Jun 2012 #92
Oh, stop it. woo me with science Jun 2012 #88
And that's not emotional? TreasonousBastard Jun 2012 #93
It's fact. nt woo me with science Jun 2012 #94
supreme court killing it will not make the craven repukes vote for single payer. ever. dionysus Jun 2012 #69
There's the golden bag of shit, isn't it. Chan790 Jun 2012 #72
You get it. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #87
If It Gets Struck Down by the Supremes, It Isn't Going to GET Done for Decades AndyTiedye Jun 2012 #90
If it's killed it's a HUGE republican win, don't kid yourself flamingdem Jun 2012 #74
And the Nader voters in 2000 wanted Bush to win bluestateguy Jun 2012 #76
Yeah ... Democrats will seize on it alright .... Trajan Jun 2012 #78
Ugh. WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #80
I obviously wish no ill upon your wife. stevedeshazer Jun 2012 #89
except Democrats wouldnt seize hold of it Enrique Jun 2012 #81
upheld 6-3 NT rufus dog Jun 2012 #83
What makes you think Mz Pip Jun 2012 #86
I was against the ACA and dislike the individual mandate, but seriously I don't want them to strike Puregonzo1188 Jun 2012 #91
Sounds good in theory but I heard no politician from either side marlakay Jun 2012 #96
We might get single payer in 20 years. Or not. Probably not. It would be a disaster IMHO....n/t Rowdyboy Jun 2012 #97
even LBJ with overwhelming majorities and a public that still believed in "big government"- Even Douglas Carpenter Jun 2012 #98
Please tell me on which planet we will find Republicans willing to support single payer. (?????????) RBInMaine Jun 2012 #100
I hope we KEEP the act, and STILL eventually morph it into single-payer Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #101
I truly doubt after the fiasco of the 1990s that single-payer will ever sinkingfeeling Jun 2012 #102
I really won't care about getting single payer if my 24 year old daughter kdmorris Jun 2012 #103
"Democrats, IF they seize on this, can make some serious political hay out of this." Given the RKP5637 Jun 2012 #104
Single Payer was the best thing about the entire idea. Hubert Flottz Jun 2012 #107
Goodbye, mandate... nt Romulox Jun 2012 #110
yeah, you're wrong. WI_DEM Jun 2012 #113
Kick...nt SidDithers Jun 2012 #114
Oops! Well that didn't happen. bluestateguy Jun 2012 #115
You, Scalia, and Clarence Thomas lose. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #118
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