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63. If he was born in Germany to a mother who was German, he was a German citizen at birth.

Thu Feb 16, 2017, 06:22 PM

Feb 2017

But was his mom only a German citizen (or US resident) and was he born at the US military hospital or a German hospital? There are reasons I ask because there was also a long delay (15 yrs) in getting citizenship. But something is missing here. It feels fishy. He is a US citizen. There should not be any reason why he should as a US citizen would be called by ICE. Unless they don't realize he is a US citizen and just think he is German citizen. It's one thing if the Berkeley police dept want to charge him and if even he has done something the state dept wants to talk to him about. But you can't be forced to choose citizenship and unless he has committed a crime against the US (talking espionage here as a crime, not protesting) you can't have your citizenship revoked. Heck, even serial killers sit on death row and keep their citizenship.

Something isn't right here.

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OMFG!!! [View all] Doreen Feb 2017 OP

Oh dear. I'm so sorry. nolabear Feb 2017 #1

Thank you. Doreen Feb 2017 #4

Seriously, get and bring a lawyer... he cannot go alone. NotThisTime Feb 2017 #11

I will be with him tomorrow but he is in Berkely and I am in Washington state. Doreen Feb 2017 #13

Do not let him go before consulting an immigration lawyer. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #34

He had gotten a immigration lawyer and everything that Doreen Feb 2017 #81

Fantastic! I'm glad to hear it! Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #82

Bring a lawyer anyway . Review social media lunasun Feb 2017 #35

He did have a lawyer. I just did not find out until much later. Doreen Feb 2017 #84

so sorry to hear this starshine00 Feb 2017 #2

Thank You. Doreen Feb 2017 #6

Holy Cow, Wellstone ruled Feb 2017 #3

I have suspected this dictator would go this far. Doreen Feb 2017 #8

Most of these folks Wellstone ruled Feb 2017 #12

ICE agent: ". . . were going to do whatever we want. . . ." tblue37 Feb 2017 #15

It is scary that they can do what they want. Doreen Feb 2017 #17

Do you know why he was questioned last year. SQUEE Feb 2017 #71

I asked him and he said it was DHS. Doreen Feb 2017 #85

OK, that's chilling. LisaM Feb 2017 #28

Get a lawyer. nt msanthrope Feb 2017 #5

He knows plenty who speacilize in this type of thing. Doreen Feb 2017 #9

I'm very sorry to hear to this. Sending you and boyfriend positive thoughts. kairos12 Feb 2017 #7

Thank you. Doreen Feb 2017 #10

nobody should go to an immigration hearing w/o a lawyer. mopinko Feb 2017 #14

Thank you. Doreen Feb 2017 #16

By the time he sees he needs a lawyer, it will be too late. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #50

Oh, he had an attorney when they/he did that. Doreen Feb 2017 #53

If it was not an immigration attorney, it's not good enough. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #54

Crap. I feel very sick. Doreen Feb 2017 #59

Hope he calls soon - and that it is all a false alarm. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #67

He just texted and he had gotten a immigration lawyer. Doreen Feb 2017 #72

Fantastic! Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #74

Here's a bit of related irony. progressoid Feb 2017 #18

Is she sorry she voted for him? NotThisTime Feb 2017 #19

Not yet. progressoid Feb 2017 #22

Even if all they do is call her husband in to ask Doreen Feb 2017 #86

Well now you can tell her she needs to be. Doreen Feb 2017 #23

Many of our Iranian itcfish Feb 2017 #93

Document everything that happens! StarryNite Feb 2017 #20

Believe me I will. Doreen Feb 2017 #24

((((Doreem)))) hugs, hang in there yuiyoshida Feb 2017 #21

Thank you. Doreen Feb 2017 #25

I am so sorry! Keep us posted. This is awful, and I'm sorry you have to go through it. Squinch Feb 2017 #26

Stay strong, and document, document, document. LisaM Feb 2017 #27

Thank you. Doreen Feb 2017 #32

Report this to the ACLU Zoonart Feb 2017 #38

If you are going to record the conversation, you must get the consent of the other party Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #45

Did they indicate anything about why he's being called in? manicraven Feb 2017 #29

They said they just want to talk to him. Doreen Feb 2017 #36

Too late now - but for anyone else reading this. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #47

What wwas the purpose of the meeting? B2G Feb 2017 #30

They did not say but yes they have called him in before a Doreen Feb 2017 #51

Sorry to Ask itcfish Feb 2017 #31

Yes, he is white but read my post just above this and you will see his problem. Doreen Feb 2017 #39

He should contact an immigration lawyer immediately vlyons Feb 2017 #33

No "maybe" about it. n/t Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #40

I am not sure how he handled it but as I have said he is savvy when Doreen Feb 2017 #44

Unless he is an immigration attorney, HE IS NOT SAVVY ENOUGH!!!! Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #52

Unfortunantly there is nothing I can do and I do not know what he did. Doreen Feb 2017 #55

I'll hope with you. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #57

I ended up calling him and when he did not answer Doreen Feb 2017 #87

I wonder if it's political AJT Feb 2017 #37

Yes, it is political. Read my post 2 posts above and you will see why. Doreen Feb 2017 #41

They can't force him to pick a citizenship if he is dual, unless the law is changed in congress. The Pachamama Feb 2017 #56

To add to his citizenship his father was also U.S army who happened to Doreen Feb 2017 #58

If he was born in Germany to a mother who was German, he was a German citizen at birth. Pachamama Feb 2017 #63

I am not sure if he was born in a German or military hospital and Doreen Feb 2017 #68

Please update us on what is happening - I really have chills about this Pachamama Feb 2017 #70

I'll let my brother know MFM008 Feb 2017 #42

What do you mean by "called in"? metalbot Feb 2017 #43

Sorry, just read your other replies metalbot Feb 2017 #46

Oh, do not be sorry. Doreen Feb 2017 #49

I completely agree with what you said. I don't understand how ICE has any jurisdiction over him Pachamama Feb 2017 #69

He has been a citizen since 15 and he is 54 now. Doreen Feb 2017 #48

If he has a cell phone he needs to turn on the avebury Feb 2017 #60

Many govt buildings don't allow use of phones or cameras or recording devices. It's also not legal Pachamama Feb 2017 #64

In Oklahoma it is legal as long avebury Feb 2017 #77

That's fine - but you were advising someone in CA to do that....this is why I replied...many don't Pachamama Feb 2017 #78

Reach out to the ACLU for help. LS_Editor Feb 2017 #61

He did have an immigration lawyer and all is solved and Doreen Feb 2017 #80

With all due respect, unless he is an EXPERIENCED immigration attorney nutshell2002 Feb 2017 #62

I would take nutshell2002's advice Skittles Feb 2017 #65

He did have an actuall immigration lawyer and I am pretty sure my boyfriend would only hire Doreen Feb 2017 #79

If he has U.S. citizenship they shouldn't be touching him. Vinca Feb 2017 #66

Under this administration, the rules seem to have changed... who knows anymore... NotThisTime Feb 2017 #75

This is very chilling and hits close to home DFW Feb 2017 #73

He is fine now. They kept trying to pin stuff on him but Doreen Feb 2017 #88

So far, my daughters have not been harassed DFW Feb 2017 #91

This whole thing is alarming still_one Feb 2017 #76

It is alarming that they would pick on someone who is not from Doreen Feb 2017 #89

I understand Doreen still_one Feb 2017 #90

Doesn't make sense. If he was naturalized, he is a citizen treestar Feb 2017 #83

Yeah, and how much is going to have to fork over to this lawyer... LAS14 Feb 2017 #92

Sorry but this story does not add up VMA131Marine Feb 2017 #94