For all of you who want to say that Pres. Obama did the same as 45 is doing now in Melbourne. [View all]

[nikibatts]

I defy you to play each rally event that Obama held promoting the stimulus package or the ACA along with the insanity you just witnessed in FL. Not even in the same stratosphere.

Obama didn't out and out lie about keeping your Dr or plan. The states refused to expand Medicare and the AMA did everything in their power to keep physicians from playing a proper role. Dissuading young and healthy people from enrolling and obstructing him on every turn is what foiled the plan that had all things worked out would have allowed people not on Medicaid to keep their own plans and physicians.

Shovel ready construction jobs were just simply not invested in as the big money investments were held back on purpose, just so Obama would fail at this. Go back, read the record listen to the tapes.

Lying is when you absolutely know something to be false and saying it anyway. Speculating and proposing and planning for a certain outcome is not lying because the plans fall through. I grant you, Obama should not have promised something he could not produce himself or could not control himself. But that is a far cry from the lying that 45 does every day all day long.