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ElkeH

(105 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 11:01 PM Feb 2017

Please. Just stop. [View all]

During the 2016 campaign we always thought Trump was just one outrageous tweet or bad news conference away from dropping out the the race. If he did not drop out, surely GOP leaders would not allow such a loonatic to win the Republican nomination. When he did win the Republican nomination, we turned our confidence to the American voters and said, "We got this. WE GOT THIS!" Hillary Clinton was going to win in a landslide, and those who worried about a President Trump were often dismissed as concern trolls.

It turned out that we did not got this. Even with the FBI and Russian influence, Trump won a frightening amount of votes. The Electoral College voted in his favor. The Congress approved the votes of the EC. One emergency stop after another failed.

Now we are seeing a repeat of the whole campaign process. There are countless news reports citing anonymous sources that detail the Trump administration is on its last breath. Once again, just another outrageous tweet or bad news conference should see the end of President Trump. A few are even so optimistic that they think impeaching Trump would magically remove his entire administration and cabinet and see Hillary Clinton sworn in as President the next day.

Of course I understand the motivation. When we are faced with a dangerous situation, it is only natural to tell ourselves everything will be alright. We are only overreacting, right? Let's not worry. We got this. WE GOT THIS!

So I hate to come across as a party pooper. Or as a concern troll. Neither the Kremlin nor anyone else is paying me to post this. But while I generally admire optimism, I also think we please need to stop this wild speculation. It is a waste of time, energy, and happy vibes. Instead, we need to face the reality..

..that yes, we will face a Trump administration for at least the next four years. If Trump is not leading it, certainly Pence will, and while he might not be as unpredictable, he is nevertheless far more socially conservative than Trump. Regardless the next four years will not have much happiness for us.

Yet the better we understand this, the better equipped we will be to fight.

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Please. Just stop. [View all] ElkeH Feb 2017 OP
"Wild speculation"? JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #1
OP just meant, Hope for the best but expect the worst. Beartracks Feb 2017 #3
Thanks for explaining what is in the concern troll's head. JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #9
LOL And your problem is....? Beartracks Feb 2017 #35
No. Squinch Feb 2017 #2
No. orangecrush Feb 2017 #4
Gee, thanks for clearing that up. None of us realized the rules of succession. President-VP-Speaker still_one Feb 2017 #5
Some did not realize the rules ElkeH Feb 2017 #11
Straw man argument. JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #15
I think there is a request for a "do-over" right now sarah FAILIN Feb 2017 #25
there was indeed quite a number posts trying to figure out how hillary could still become president. unblock Feb 2017 #26
So you say the Kremlin isn't paying you to post this? Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #6
If someone has to say "The Kremlin isn't paying me" JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #20
I think it's premature to tell people to give up all hope butdiduvote Feb 2017 #7
Give up false hope ElkeH Feb 2017 #10
Thank you. greytdemocrat Feb 2017 #16
Pence isn't our "false hope". JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #17
Magic? What the fuck are you on about? And this has nothing to do with Hillary. JTFrog Feb 2017 #18
speaking of strawmen, lol! unblock Feb 2017 #29
Nah, the OP was trolling and was PPR'd for it. JTFrog Feb 2017 #34
Why don't you "please stop" njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #8
Beg to differ.. MedusaX Feb 2017 #12
THIS orangecrush Feb 2017 #14
then we better start building the underground and the resistance now. unblock Feb 2017 #31
Not just no -- HELL NO! Raine1967 Feb 2017 #13
Seriously. "Just give it up. Trump won!" JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #19
You got that feeling as well? Raine1967 Feb 2017 #28
What is even the point of an op like this? What does op imagine she/he has the power to"stop?!" anneboleyn Feb 2017 #21
we need to start with small victories MyMission Feb 2017 #22
Hillary had the election won with 11 days to go. The FBI didn't just help Trump, they dramatically StevieM Feb 2017 #23
Please. Just stop. ElkeH has left the building. Brother Buzz Feb 2017 #24
good riddance troll JI7 Feb 2017 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Raine1967 Feb 2017 #30
For whomever alerted on this post, the OP has been banned as "Previously banned troll" uppityperson Feb 2017 #32
No surprise there. JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #33
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