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JCanete

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88. wow...that just isn't true at all. Assumptions color where and what you look for, and how you

Tue Feb 21, 2017, 03:10 PM

Feb 2017

interpret contradictors of your world view. You don't see how your very argument could be and is used in the most nefarious ways? "it was all in the fine print....should have known better." "If you'd just gone out and gotten the right financial advisor and not that shill who was literally working for a credit card company who you thought was working in your best interest, then you wouldn't be so fucked right now...dumbass. The information was out there, you should have just done your homework."

The obfuscation of truth is by design. The vernier of trustworthiness is effective, especially when people in your life who you trust, themselves trust certain institutions and sources. That gives them credibility. Everybody starts from a place of ignorance, and truth does not glow amidst shit with some special halo.

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Yes, We DO Think You ARE Stupid [View all] NanceGreggs Feb 2017 OP

You nailed it. 3catwoman3 Feb 2017 #1

Agree! iluvtennis Feb 2017 #8

Not enough cow bell. nt NCjack Feb 2017 #78

Especially if u think being stupid is a personal choice..... Cryptoad Feb 2017 #129

They are not only willfully ignorant, they are stupid and mean. NCjack Feb 2017 #130

I agree they are all those things,,,, Cryptoad Feb 2017 #131

Thanks for this. Merlot Feb 2017 #2

Especially if they are unable or unwilling to own up to it Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2017 #75

Yup. Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #3

Bravo...but I'd change this SHRED Feb 2017 #4

I agree. Excellent point. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2017 #37

I agree. I think some 'can' learn... WePurrsevere Feb 2017 #107

K&R times a million LW1977 Feb 2017 #5

K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #6

These are people who believe that fictional massacres are real drm604 Feb 2017 #7

Yup! Bowling Green real, Sandy Hook fake. Initech Feb 2017 #12

Thanks for saying that. world wide wally Feb 2017 #9

So what he lied to everyone else griloco Feb 2017 #10

Jedi mind tricks work with Republicans... if we ever get the chance. yuiyoshida Feb 2017 #11

They are stupid and gullible! herding cats Feb 2017 #13

Well said! Canoe52 Feb 2017 #14

They're smart enough to show up and vote - and that's all the smarts they need. NBachers Feb 2017 #15

True enough. NanceGreggs Feb 2017 #18

I tried to tell my friends who were voting third party notdarkyet Feb 2017 #22

still furious nocalflea Feb 2017 #40

Excellent point, NBachers. the trump voters are voting Cha Feb 2017 #26

The person the Russians wanted there? Alternative facts is leaving out information too no? uponit7771 Feb 2017 #32

I tried desperately to convince several family members/friends Zero System Feb 2017 #64

Thank you. sheshe2 Feb 2017 #16

Beautiful and right on! Kath2 Feb 2017 #17

True dat. Oh the pain...the pain. Marcuse Feb 2017 #19

Awesome essay amuse bouche Feb 2017 #20

Perfect. Great writing. They are as dumb as doorknobs but seem proud notdarkyet Feb 2017 #21

Epic Rant, Nance.. Bookmarked! I know I use the Cha Feb 2017 #23

What is stupidity? vlyons Feb 2017 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Feb 2017 #39

More than a few of the highly educated RWers in my dept believe in some abysmally stupid shit. HughBeaumont Feb 2017 #47

and I'll bet that more than a few are vlyons Feb 2017 #52

And this ++++++++. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #55

Yes but understanding what makes them tick can bring a whole new world of understanding nolabels Feb 2017 #74

I think most of us CAN, in fact "see their point of view" NastyRiffraff Feb 2017 #104

This +++++++++++. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #56

posted wrong spot mnhtnbb Feb 2017 #66

Thank you! colorado_ufo Feb 2017 #25

K&R. dchill Feb 2017 #27

Pod Save America may beg to differ. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2017 #28

As always... Wonderfully written! WiffenPoof Feb 2017 #29

I did the exact same thing liquid diamond Feb 2017 #92

we're not so bright either daft yank Feb 2017 #30

Very good points. AJT Feb 2017 #34

There is no way to "broaden the tent and allow anti choice people in" without saying that women are Squinch Feb 2017 #54

Yes, it is just a shame that that believing in AJT Feb 2017 #58

Anti- choice is anti democratic so that's a firm never. Separation of church and state matters. bettyellen Feb 2017 #86

non white working class DOES vote democratic. the whites who vote republican connect more JI7 Feb 2017 #121

Lovely prose. Trust Buster Feb 2017 #31

Gosh, that felt good to read..... AJT Feb 2017 #33

Proud Ignorance is a self-regenerating problem.. . . .n/t annabanana Feb 2017 #35

YES! YES! YES! n/t MANative Feb 2017 #36

This needs to be posted on the Free Republic site or FOX comment site and sent nikibatts Feb 2017 #38

This.. cannabis_flower Feb 2017 #41

Another awesome post! BlueJac Feb 2017 #42

WTG Nance Gothmog Feb 2017 #43

yep. Dumb as dirt. bigtree Feb 2017 #44

Great rant - the only thing I'd change NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #45

Amazingly Brilliant! FrankfurtCat Feb 2017 #46

Trump supporters are stupid, but I think their stupidity has hit generational stupidity. BeckyDem Feb 2017 #48

Not just us Dems, the rest of the world thinks they're stupid NightWatcher Feb 2017 #49

May I please post this to FB? moda253 Feb 2017 #50

The GOP has, "ironically", used think tanks ironically to spew out simplistic slogans and BSdetect Feb 2017 #51

Plenty of evil people (not just the stupid ones) voted for him as well. LonePirate Feb 2017 #53

Evil, yes. There are many, mini smart Bannons, who take advantage of the Repub masses stupidity Alice11111 Feb 2017 #111

So true! TNLib Feb 2017 #57

Rants like this prove that some democrats are not so smart after all. RadiationTherapy Feb 2017 #59

Exactly. It's cathartic, but hardly persuasive. alarimer Feb 2017 #63

I think Zizek explains very well how insulting one's ideological rivals empowers one's rivals. RadiationTherapy Feb 2017 #72

+1 leftstreet Feb 2017 #89

Yeah, you dumbasses! What she said! Mc Mike Feb 2017 #60

"There is, of course, a way to stop being called stupid. You can always try NOT being stupid." tazkcmo Feb 2017 #61

Ah, fresh air! Iggo Feb 2017 #62

You said it all! nancy1942 Feb 2017 #65

+ 1,000,000, Nance. My sentiments exactly. (nt) Paladin Feb 2017 #67

Hubby--a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst--always disputes me when I start ranting about stupidity mnhtnbb Feb 2017 #68

I agree with you. Self-destructive is a more nuanced and thoughtful expression of their actions. RadiationTherapy Feb 2017 #73

K&R! stonecutter357 Feb 2017 #69

In this age of information, ignorance is a choice. logosoco Feb 2017 #70

wow...that just isn't true at all. Assumptions color where and what you look for, and how you JCanete Feb 2017 #88

well, thanks for telling me what is "not true at all" logosoco Feb 2017 #93

The question remains, why would they if they've been given every reason to believe their current JCanete Feb 2017 #99

But if they believe FOX is the truth, why... Beartracks Feb 2017 #133

What a GREAT point, logosoco! calimary Feb 2017 #112

Perfectly put. Kentonio Feb 2017 #71

Great post! ElementaryPenguin Feb 2017 #76

Amen underpants Feb 2017 #77

Stupid is a stupid word unless you want to insult someone nolabels Feb 2017 #79

On a roll lately Nance Lochloosa Feb 2017 #80

Normally I'm opposed to calling people stupid retrowire Feb 2017 #81

K&R ismnotwasm Feb 2017 #82

this...100%nt heaven05 Feb 2017 #83

Stupid people don't know they are stupid. Doitnow Feb 2017 #84

BAM!!!! ScubaSteve Feb 2017 #85

No we don't. Don't lump me in with that. It isn't helpful. There isn't an area of discourse where JCanete Feb 2017 #87

Excellent points leftstreet Feb 2017 #90

+infinity NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #91

Its downright inhumane to expect us to perpetually bite our tongues LiberalLovinLug Feb 2017 #110

Since I am an Independent I can actually look at this dynamic objectively NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #115

I do agree, especially with your last paragraph LiberalLovinLug Feb 2017 #120

It sounds to me like she is ranting and venting liquid diamond Feb 2017 #95

then we are all a lost cause. The very forces that work on white middle class people will work on JCanete Feb 2017 #97

Continue we will. liquid diamond Feb 2017 #124

totally what I was saying...? Let's breed racism? Lets let racism take over? Fine, make up your own JCanete Feb 2017 #126

So please enlighten us, O Enlightened One Dave Starsky Feb 2017 #98

Tell you what, we didn't know how to mine solar power efficiently, or wind, or anything else, but we JCanete Feb 2017 #100

I accept that as a "I have no idea." Dave Starsky Feb 2017 #114

Thank you Cha Feb 2017 #119

That is dumb. If you don't have the solution for curing cancer calling it heart disease doesn't JCanete Feb 2017 #123

That is an excellent analogy. Dave Starsky Feb 2017 #138

Well, at least we're making strides to cure cancer. You're clearly content to live in a world where JCanete Feb 2017 #139

You could start by not personally attacking them (not you personally, just in general) NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #103

Absolutely Perfect DoctorJoJo Feb 2017 #94

butbutbut they say we are the stupid racist ones. at least we can spell well. pansypoo53219 Feb 2017 #96

Amen! Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #101

don't think this works...at all Softail1 Feb 2017 #102

They are stupid or evil, but your point is well taken Alice11111 Feb 2017 #113

K&R!! rury Feb 2017 #105

Excellent again, Nance NastyRiffraff Feb 2017 #106

We didn't need a 70 million dollar congressional investigation to figure this out. iscooterliberally Feb 2017 #108

K & R!! Just because the truth hurts doesn't mean it's not the truth!! 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #109

The people who hate Obamacare but love the ACA mcar Feb 2017 #116

Nance, you are on fire these days, and I'm loving it. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2017 #117

Another case in point.. Cha Feb 2017 #118

I tried to use your excellent rant as my sig line - wow!!!! erronis Feb 2017 #122

. Takket Feb 2017 #125

We thank you very sweetly for saying it so neatly. njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #127

Excellent Post n/t jrthin Feb 2017 #128

thought I was going to make a friend cry the other night at a party when Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2017 #132

Awesome post n/t lordsummerisle Feb 2017 #134

Willful ignorance: The Wizard Feb 2017 #135

If Frank were alive today I'd love to see what he'd comment on this. Something like?: lambchopp59 Feb 2017 #136

KICK Cha Feb 2017 #137