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199. I agree. Maher is not a bigot, that I know of.

Tue Feb 21, 2017, 08:57 PM

Feb 2017

He holds some views about Israel and Palestinians, but that isn't based on bigotry, just because some others disagree. Very reasonable people hold different views on that complicated and long standing area.

I think he's one of the quickest wits, very funny off the cuff or in giving a planned monologue, and has contributed much over the years to the left side of politics, with his political satire and boldly stated views, and willingness to discuss anything and everything (and usu. win) with people across the political spectrum.

Despite him being male, I don't view him as masogynistic. He's said a few things I don't like, but in general, he is one on one with smart women on his show. He doesn't interrupt them more than he interrupt the male guests, and he relates to them like the real people they are. He doesn't make disparaging comments, that I've heard, about the appearance of women (like Trump does), although he does make comments about women he thinks are hot babes (if they are in the news or political...and only sometimes, usu. for a joke).

I like him. He's funny. He's not hateful at all.

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George Takei vs. Bill Maher [View all] Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 OP

It's very disheartening to see liberals knocking liberals because they are not liberal enough TrekLuver Feb 2017 #1

Bull Maher is not a liberal though. As far as I know he is a libertarian. boston bean Feb 2017 #3

Well he coulda fooled me and yes he's a liberal. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #4

Then he fooled you. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #34

I'm not reading all that but because he said some "unliberal" things (I'll assume) he's kicked out? TrekLuver Feb 2017 #36

Kicked out of where? Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #41

I'm not seeing the bigotry here and please don't judge me since you know nothing about me thanks. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #44

So you are turning a blind eye to bigoty Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #50

Block my posts because you are too liberal for me. HAHAHHAHAHA TrekLuver Feb 2017 #54

I don't block posts Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #58

Well then it looks like you're stuck with me...I call it out too and wanting to hang Mahr for this TrekLuver Feb 2017 #63

He also made sure to ask where the "weirdos" should pee. Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #87

Who ever said anything about hanging Maher? Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #113

He self-describes as a libertarian. Gore1FL Feb 2017 #66

No he does not. He dropped that ages ago. phleshdef Feb 2017 #74

He's a showman. For the last maybe 8 years he was more Dem leaning. Then the WH changed parties. Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #88

Actually its been more like over a decade. phleshdef Feb 2017 #90

in 2011 he renounced any label and described himself as "practical" Gore1FL Feb 2017 #97

Thats pretty vague and offers no video so I can't speak to the context of it. But I would identify.. phleshdef Feb 2017 #99

+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #105

Thank you! MindPilot Feb 2017 #165

"Yes, he is a bigot" should just end with a period. There's nothing left to be said after that. EffieBlack Feb 2017 #212

I'll decide how my sentences end. I don't need any help. phleshdef Feb 2017 #223

Here we go with the "you called out someone's bigotry so YOU'RE THE BIGOT!" bs EffieBlack Feb 2017 #228

You didn't "call me" on anything. You attempted to. But you failed because I'm no selling it. phleshdef Feb 2017 #231

Words have meaning n/t kcr Feb 2017 #233

He's a self-described libertarian. cannabis_flower Feb 2017 #78

Nope. He's not. TDale313 Feb 2017 #168

He is American Pachamama Feb 2017 #173

Hardly. Bill Maher is indeed liberal. RelativelyJones Feb 2017 #6

He is a libertarian who has many liberal positions Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #38

Yep, that's about the size of it.. I stand with George, too. Cha Feb 2017 #80

I stand with both of them. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #120

Exactly EffieBlack Feb 2017 #213

He has identified as a liberal for pretty much a decade now. phleshdef Feb 2017 #91

What difference does a label make? It's his positions on major issues that counts, isn't it? Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #154

If that's true, then I wonder why Sanders campaigned as a Democrat Orrex Feb 2017 #156

You know Vermont politics are different, right? Goblinmonger Feb 2017 #192

Are you saying that labels DO matter in Vermont? Orrex Feb 2017 #193

Oh, man Goblinmonger Feb 2017 #194

Are you saying that labels DO matter in Vermont? Orrex Feb 2017 #195

He had to change the label for the presidential bid because it's a two-party system Goblinmonger Feb 2017 #196

Are you saying that labels DO matter in Vermont? Orrex Feb 2017 #197

Exactly Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #175

I haven't heard him express bigotry. ??? nt Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #198

You haven't? Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #203

No, I don't think he's bigoted. Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #209

You don't include remarks Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #226

THANK YOU!!! EffieBlack Feb 2017 #214

He is liberal/libertarian.... angstlessk Feb 2017 #7

I don't think his views on libertarianism have changed much since this video RelativelyJones Feb 2017 #14

if we define everyone who supports free speech and legal pot as "libertarian", that's what he is. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #17

he's a strong supporter of Democrats-- he supported Obama and Hillary Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #24

That doesn't excuse his bigotry. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #61

No, it certainly does not. I just don't think he's a libertarian at all Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #179

Apparently, some Democrats think his bigotry is just fine as long as he supports the positions they EffieBlack Feb 2017 #215

Bill's libertarian credentials begin and end with legalizing weed n/t Azathoth Feb 2017 #202

I think Maher has passed his sell by date. GoneOffShore Feb 2017 #205

this s about bigotry and lies about transgender people JI7 Feb 2017 #11

Did you watch his wink-and-nod encouragement to milo's extremely transphobic remarks? Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #18

I'll have to watch it... TrekLuver Feb 2017 #26

If someone tolerates and encourages blatantly false and transphobic lies, yes. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #37

After watching it he was not chuckling with him...he was chuckling at him..and he said WHAT TrekLuver Feb 2017 #49

Scroll back to Maher's comment about "weirdos" Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #56

You need to watch the show AND the after show Beaverhausen Feb 2017 #131

Yes I did. It was disgusting. Vile. (I assume he's trying to save or resurrect his show ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #70

Huh? MindPilot Feb 2017 #121

That figure was clearly off the wall. Didn't he say " involved"? Which might be true, and entirely JCanete Feb 2017 #152

That is likely the statistic he was using - Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #187

So your argument is we should turn a blind eye to bigotry. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #32

Did I say that was my argument? TrekLuver Feb 2017 #33

You posted that we shouldn't attack Maher for his bigotry. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #35

I said nothing like that you can go reread what I wrote I'm not typing it again. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #39

I read what you wrote Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #42

You know what I just watched the video and I don't see any "blatant" bigotry portrayed by Mahr. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #53

That says quite a lot, that you don't think this is blatant bigotry Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #69

Except it wasn't unintelligible..Mahr said "I said it to Fuck with Jack" TrekLuver Feb 2017 #73

That makes it less bigoted to call transgender people weirdos? Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #92

He was kidding around...good lord lighten up. I'm done with this nonsense now. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #100

It is not nonsense Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #188

Notice how that inconvenient little fact was left off the posted transcript BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #211

When he started reading the Joan Rivers quotes Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #115

That's OK I don't need to prove my "liberalness" to you...why you actually likened me to a Trashpot TrekLuver Feb 2017 #118

Yes I'm intolerant of bigotry. Guilty as charged. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #123

Fair enough...I'm not a fan of it either...I don't think there are many here who would defend TrekLuver Feb 2017 #126

Who said anything about 'throwing the baby out with the bathwater' Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #148

Go chase your own tail. I'm done with you...have a nice day. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #149

You keep saying that Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #151

I'll knock transphobia whenever I see it. Adrahil Feb 2017 #62

The only transphobia on the show was Milo...and maybe the other southern guy I forget his TrekLuver Feb 2017 #64

Maher gave Milo half-hearted agreement.... Adrahil Feb 2017 #68

And when Maher said "where should the weirdos pee"??? Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #89

It is one thing to believe that there is too much emphasis on a civil rights issue such as dsc Feb 2017 #79

"not liberal enough"? What he said was bigoted & right out of the GOP cue cards. Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #86

A feud with Bill Maher? Who contributed $1 Million to the Obama campaign? Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #153

Yeah, I feel the same way. More unity is needed in general. Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #200

+1000 BannonsLiver Feb 2017 #210

Would it hurt to provide context to those who didn't watch his show? brooklynite Feb 2017 #2

Mahr was phobic about transgenders angstlessk Feb 2017 #5

Milo made a bigoted and wrong point about transgender people being "dangerous" Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #15

I dont agree wtih the TERF folks, Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #21

I think the shit Julie Bindel has said on this is uncannily similar to Milo's rhetoric. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #22

I don't know Julie Bindel, Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #23

Well if you run down the bigoted bullet points, they're identical. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #25

You're missing the most significant difference, Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #27

You're right. And I don't know if that's part of Bindel's assertions, or not. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #29

I see both points Lotusflower70 Feb 2017 #8

I like Maher and agree with him on many things, but he's not always right. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #12

Agreed Lotusflower70 Feb 2017 #13

Well said Warren! I agree Va Lefty Feb 2017 #16

Exactly! mountain grammy Feb 2017 #76

Anyone who thinks a man in a dress and heels wearing a waist cincher Warpy Feb 2017 #9

That is too hillarious angstlessk Feb 2017 #19

Divide and conquer. theaocp Feb 2017 #30

Hahaha! babylonsister Feb 2017 #20

Yep. Maher was wrong and should be called out on that. Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #10

I've seen him miss opportunities before...but then I was thinking if I was hosting the show TrekLuver Feb 2017 #28

This one was too offensive, and too blatant. Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #43

Milo didn't get away with anything in that video...so I'm seeing something different. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #48

I never suggested Milo got away with it. We were discussing Maher's behavior - Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #55

Larry jumped in right away. It's a talk show moving along to the next topic. You guys are really TrekLuver Feb 2017 #60

plus infinty! MindPilot Feb 2017 #127

I find Maher a mixed bag. Crunchy Frog Feb 2017 #31

You weren't...Maher's fearless critiques of Republican hypocrisy are a model that all Democrats BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #40

It's called "liberal intolerance". TrekLuver Feb 2017 #122

I though the Magic R segment of New Rules was one of the best ever. Boomerproud Feb 2017 #67

I find Maher a mixed bag. LenaBaby61 Feb 2017 #77

me too.. samnsara Feb 2017 #103

I thought the "Magic R" piece was one of his best. smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #106

caught the repeat and I don't know why Milo was on... I don't know why anyone invites him anywhere.. JHan Feb 2017 #45

I learned that he's an uninteresting asshole. Crunchy Frog Feb 2017 #47

Right?! JHan Feb 2017 #52

My Wife And I FF'd The Last Bit of Him ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #101

My impression was that he is doing performance art mnhtnbb Feb 2017 #104

Beam Me Up, Mr. Sulu, because this planet sucks n/t Stargleamer Feb 2017 #46

IIRC, Bill told Milo to shut the fuck up tirebiter Feb 2017 #51

Then why did Maher give him a platform in the first place Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #57

I stand with both Demonaut Feb 2017 #59

I thought he was too. Bill Maher is dead to me now. Some of his biggest defenders BEFORE the show... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #65

K & R SunSeeker Feb 2017 #71

The Black Bloc in Berkley made Milo a hero to the Right tirebiter Feb 2017 #72

Bill Maher is human thbobby Feb 2017 #75

I like them both. logosoco Feb 2017 #81

I would love to see George Takei debate Maher sometime. Initech Feb 2017 #82

WOW! Can anybody say overreaction njhoneybadger Feb 2017 #83

welcome to du trumpocalypse orleans Feb 2017 #84

What did he say? liberalnarb Feb 2017 #85

Bill Maher has consistently been a failure at defending LGBT rights. Oneironaut Feb 2017 #93

He's trying to "save" his failing show. It's the Springer / Maury approach. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #96

wait a second, that just isn't true. I just looked up the ratings. This is his most watched season JCanete Feb 2017 #158

Apparently it's working. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #159

good lord, it isn't defending his bigottedness. He's ignorant on shit. I'd rather people be upright JCanete Feb 2017 #94

You act as if he's been living inside some sort of GOP bubble. He hasn't. He knows better ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #95

you may very well be right that he doesn't care. I'm not going to get into his motivations. But JCanete Feb 2017 #98

Sigh... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #107

I don't particularly disagree with anything you said here. It makes sense to choose where JCanete Feb 2017 #147

Bill Maher is not our enemy.....nt HAB911 Feb 2017 #102

Politically correct people are. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #109

Bullshit! This was not some unguarded "off-hand remark" ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #111

The comment sure as heck didn't bother me. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #112

there is a very sensitive thread HAB911 Feb 2017 #117

Yes...this....BIG TIME. TrekLuver Feb 2017 #119

Few are100pc correct liberal, plus WHO is the DECIDER of what 100 pc is? Maher goes off the rails Alice11111 Feb 2017 #174

Don't be afraid. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #130

What was funny about what either Milo said or Maher agreed to? Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #177

Maher's being lynched by melodramatic libs. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #182

"Lynched?" EffieBlack Feb 2017 #216

So does being politically correct. bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #217

Calling out bigotry is "political correctness" only to those who aren't its target EffieBlack Feb 2017 #219

Widdle feewings bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #222

Well their hair trigger HAB911 Feb 2017 #180

Perhaps you should not violate the rules so much, just a suggestion... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #183

stating an opinion HAB911 Feb 2017 #184

Depends on the opinion, generally attacking Democrats is frowned upon, as is attacking people... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #190

Do folks use the alert button against you often? bathroommonkey76 Feb 2017 #185

LOL, on the topics HAB911 Feb 2017 #186

Frankly speaking, if you find that you are afraid to voice an opinion because you... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #176

sorry, nothing to do with being labeled anything HAB911 Feb 2017 #181

Depends who you define 'our' Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #116

Milo is an asshole. Duppers Feb 2017 #108

Huh-wha-what?! WTF are you talking about? NurseJackie Feb 2017 #110

Milo isn't trans. JenniferJuniper Feb 2017 #114

Milo was trashing trans people Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #124

Wow, thanks. Duppers Feb 2017 #128

I'm one more..Maher is not a bigot. MindPilot Feb 2017 #125

Unless you're Transgendered or Muslim. (That is all.) NurseJackie Feb 2017 #132

Oh god now I need eye bleach!! MindPilot Feb 2017 #135

Did you watch the show and after show? Beaverhausen Feb 2017 #133

I did. MindPilot Feb 2017 #134

He isn't??? Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #150

I agree. Maher is not a bigot, that I know of. Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #199

I have always found that Maher is a self-important, smarmy little libertarian shit. demmiblue Feb 2017 #129

Isn't it a pity that Wilmore's take-down was during the UNAIRED "Overtime" segment? NurseJackie Feb 2017 #136

For as much as you loathe the guy, you sure seem to be hooked on the show. MindPilot Feb 2017 #137

Why does my scorn for him make you so angry? It's as if you're taking it personally. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #138

I'm not one who's angry... MindPilot Feb 2017 #140

So you're not angry, but *do* take it personally ... that's good to know. NurseJackie Feb 2017 #142

Careful Orrex Feb 2017 #139

Probably because criticism of Maher MicaelS Feb 2017 #141

And they seem to forget that people on TV are entertainers, not political operatives. MindPilot Feb 2017 #143

Yes, that's the other predictable Maher defense Orrex Feb 2017 #146

Then get your own show. MindPilot Feb 2017 #155

Yes, criticism can only be voiced by those who can do better Orrex Feb 2017 #163

The other dismissive variation they're using is "Don't like him? Don't watch him!" Of course ... NurseJackie Feb 2017 #207

Yes, that is always and invariably the pro-Maher response Orrex Feb 2017 #144

Well your first sentance is clearly inaccurate... MindPilot Feb 2017 #160

Glad to see that you agree with the rest Orrex Feb 2017 #161

What tweet are you talking about? There's no tweet. MindPilot Feb 2017 #164

Curious--your in-thread link brought me to the OP Orrex Feb 2017 #166

Ah yes, the "bigot" claim because he dares MicaelS Feb 2017 #170

No, that's not it. Orrex Feb 2017 #171

That is not why he's called a bigot, Jesus, get a fucking grip... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #178

Oh no, you can't say that around here. MicaelS Feb 2017 #189

You are being called out for falsely suggesting that Muslims are the only ones who... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #191

Did we accidentally stumble onto a Breitbart comment section? EffieBlack Feb 2017 #220

No idea, I'm really puzzled by this tremendous concern about Islam in the West... Humanist_Activist Feb 2017 #227

I'm not so puzzled that this concern exists among certain people in the West . . . EffieBlack Feb 2017 #229

Thank you! TrekLuver Feb 2017 #145

Dollars to donuts, many of them are probably also Stern fans. n/t demmiblue Feb 2017 #167

Not a fan of Maher at all. hrmjustin Feb 2017 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author melman Feb 2017 #172

Maher is also a misogynist. wryter2000 Feb 2017 #162

Yes, on both counts. TDale313 Feb 2017 #169

So demanding purity of our politicians who we actually elect to represent us is bad.... vi5 Feb 2017 #201

Not demanding purity but calling out bigotry Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #204

Interesting how folks circle the wagon at the mere suggestion that one of their own might be a bigot EffieBlack Feb 2017 #218

"we" don't elect all politicians to represent us JI7 Feb 2017 #206

He's a lot more liberal melman Feb 2017 #224

That doesn't excuse his bigotry. Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #225

Be careful . . . EffieBlack Feb 2017 #232

LOL! Trumpocalypse Feb 2017 #234

And some of the policies many on here are o.k. with... vi5 Feb 2017 #230

Bill Mahar is an entertainer and I watch people who please me when I consume my time with them. Jim Beard Feb 2017 #208

Pfft...Maher can only dream of being on the same level. Rex Feb 2017 #221