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shcrane71

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24. Single payer is enacted by States, not the Senate.

Thu Jun 28, 2012, 10:47 PM

Jun 2012

Obamacare allows states to opt-out of providing insurance pools. States that opt-out can still receive federal funds if they choose their own way of providing health care that insure as many or more citizens than the insurance pools.

Vermont will have a single payer system by 2017 (five years). The MAIN reason that Vermont has chosen to go this route is that it's sure it will attract businesses and jobs to the state. Think about it. Health insurance premiums are a major drag on US business profits. Hell, the major auto-makers all blamed health care costs of their workers for their bankruptcies, and they've all come out in favor of single payer systems.

Canada's single payer system started with Skaskatchewan. Once all the other Canadians saw how good they had it in Moosejaw, they demanded single payer in their own provinces.

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For Those Opposed to the ACA, How Can Single Payer Get Through This Senate? [View all] Yavin4 Jun 2012 OP

It can't. elleng Jun 2012 #1

It doesn't need to get through THIS Senate. And the Senate, like the House, kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #2

Attach it as an amendment to the yearly Defense Authorization bill. LonePirate Jun 2012 #3

Or attach it as an ammendment to some "life begins at erection" bill Taverner Jun 2012 #4

From my many hours on DU, it is simple: treestar Jun 2012 #5

Rally popular support the way Reagan did Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #16

Aha, the bully pulpit treestar Jun 2012 #21

"Obama still had millions of worshipful volunteers" Yavin4 Jun 2012 #23

The same volunteers who got him elected Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #27

Wow. You Are Extremely Naive Yavin4 Jun 2012 #28

You mean I'm not taking into account the corporate bribes? Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #29

Reagan Offered Candy Yavin4 Jun 2012 #30

Not if it was paired with REAL cuts to the Department of War and to corporate welfare Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #31

first one has to make the effort, again and again, until success nt msongs Jun 2012 #6

What If That "Success" Takes Decades? Yavin4 Jun 2012 #13

What did Congress look like when SS and Medicare were passed? leftstreet Jun 2012 #7

A LOT of Democrats + Democratic POTUS Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2012 #8

Once they lost their majority why didn't the GOP get rid of it? leftstreet Jun 2012 #9

Too popular/accepted by the time that happened Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2012 #10

...as Single Payer would be today n/t leftstreet Jun 2012 #15

If it could have gotten passed Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2012 #18

Also, The GOP of the 1950s Weren't Stark Raving Mad Yavin4 Jun 2012 #11

Yes, Senator Joe McCarthy was of sound mind leftstreet Jun 2012 #14

It's very very hard to get rid of new legislation once it's made. joshcryer Jun 2012 #19

And a Depression treestar Jun 2012 #22

It can't and more importantly insurance companies are now too big to fail n/t Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2012 #12

OWS apologizes to you for not being able to overturn four decades of a multi-billion dollar sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #17

Well . . . . people could sit around and do nothing. Stinky The Clown Jun 2012 #20

Single payer is enacted by States, not the Senate. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #24

For those of you opposed to British rule EFerrari Jun 2012 #25

Single payer will start in the states. And move on from there. villager Jun 2012 #26