So many of us have been accused on here of wanting a Glorious Revolution. Let's get out with it!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

38. Very interesting discussion here. I have no skin in the personal side of this back and forth, so I

can read it without emotion. Last week I was digging through the 2004 archives for election
fraud discussions for some data, and it confirmed what I have been thinking for quite some
time. That we used to be able to have respectful conversations about big ideas, without
getting personal. I miss that.

I agree with you that everything does seem like it's going to hell in a hand basket, and there is
not enough of a force to change it. Not enough people who care enough. Too many people who
don't care one iota. Too many people who feel it's too big of a cancer to fix. I also don't believe
there has been incremental change for the good - but look at it more like tiny battles where we
may have staved off complete defeat. If we didn't elect Obama, and we had had four more
years of a Bush, it may have indeed been total defeat without hope. To me, we are in a tenuous
remission state.

How did the Plutocracy succeed? By changing and controlling the minds of so many who can not think for themselves. By diverting their attention from their greed and making them think instead that the government was the enemy and giving away their money to millions of lazy freeloaders. Knowing full well that they would never do the research to see that the dollars we spend on charity are far exceeded by the dollars we spend on the war machine. I am sure this was part of the plan since without them, there would be enough to revolt.

And the saddest thing of all is that they turned these people into uncaring, selfish people, just like themselves. How
else can you explain Jean Schmidt going down on her knees in utter joy when first thinking that ACA had gone down
to defeat? Utter joy that millions of human beings could continue to suffer without healthcare?