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In reply to the discussion: HOW BERNIE SANDERS IDEAS ARE WINNING IN THE TRUMP ERA [View all]FDRsGhost
(470 posts)135. I'll disgree and here's why
HRC left Sanders alone on the totality of his plan. He never had to defend the cost side because he was never an actual threat to win the nomination
I disagree. You know who wasn't a threat? Lincoln Chafee. Remember there were polls and many of them which said Bernie does better in a general against Trump. There were polls which had Bernie ahead too but that was then and this is now and I'm not here to re-fight the primaries.
Polls show that the majority of American's support single payer and here's a poll just a couple weeks ago and it has more support than the ACA does itself;
http://www.gallup.com/poll/191504/majority-support-idea-fed-funded-healthcare-system.aspx
Now here's the rub; single payer costs cheaper and saves people money. Are taxes increased? Yes they sure are BUT what people in taxes is cheaper than what they would pay now. There is no deductibles, there is no co-pays, there is no cost for prescriptions (which we pay the highest for in the world) and there is no charge for taking an ambulance when you need it. On and on. Once you look at the cost breakdown between what people currently pay and all the nickel and diming vs a single payer system, the savings is something else.
Now as far as college goes; education IMHO is a human right and it should be 100% free. Other countries in Europe do this and because of this their younger generations will be miles ahead of our own. Nobody is drowning in student loan debt and it just got a lot more difficult as Trump is going to slash Pell Grants.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/03/29/congresswoman-rebukes-white-house-proposal-to-cut-2017-pell-grants-hiv-research/
An educated public doesn't vote Republican. Right now millions of people can't buy a home and will never own one because they are so far in debt. They can't purchase a car and aren't able to get ahead. Student loans are unable to be discharged in bankruptcy (they used to be able to but that changed when W came into office and yes I wish Democrats rolled that back when we had a majority). It's a massive drag on the economy and is one of the biggest crisis we face as a nation.
We need to stop putting kids in debt that they can't get out of.
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He's also said the exact opposite, and his long time campaign manager reiterated
synergie
Mar 2017
#109
Mybe it's b/c threads like this make it look like he is the only progressive in the party.
AgadorSparticus
Mar 2017
#141
No one on this site hates Sen Sanders, but we do hate those who try to divide us.
FSogol
Mar 2017
#9
Not fawning equals hate? This OP is way over the top - do you seriously believe
seaglass
Mar 2017
#22
I don't believe Bernie said anything in the article clip. The author did. Read the headline and
seaglass
Mar 2017
#36
It is divisive and you read the posts so you know that...you have a reason for this I suppose, but
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#92
It's like a pep talk MM. It's nice if the main stream media discusses progressive trends & figures
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2017
#41
You read your own threads... I presume...try reading the replies and tell me
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#95
No more and no less than the righteous cries of oppression from self-styled flagellants.
LanternWaste
Mar 2017
#64
Nice try. That claim was never made. Perhaps you will read what you respond to in the future.
JTFrog
Mar 2017
#147
I agree very llittle effort is required, so you should have no problem finding out
synergie
Mar 2017
#154
You'll think differently when they issue Bernie Sanders jetpacks and Bernie Sanders acne cures!
randome
Mar 2017
#82
And your response well illustrates the depth of feeling among those who do not see Sanders
guillaumeb
Mar 2017
#143
Who are we kidding? They control the Presidency, the House, the Senate, and soon SCOTUS.
pnwmom
Mar 2017
#112
Again, anything to add about the article or are you just going to hurl insults?
FDRsGhost
Mar 2017
#127
Including the $15.3 trillion tax hike that would raise middle-income taxes an average of $4,700/yr?
BeyondGeography
Mar 2017
#128