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In reply to the discussion: HOW BERNIE SANDERS IDEAS ARE WINNING IN THE TRUMP ERA [View all]JTFrog
(14,274 posts)145. Here:
Link to tweet
SCARBOROUGH: Can Dems be open to candidates that aren't rigidly pro choice, rigidly pro gun control?
SANDERS: "The answer, I think, is yes."
Again, why should an outsider make these choices for the Democratic Party? It's asinine.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/a9203970/democrats-abortion-economic-justice/
There's No Economic Justice Without Abortion Rights
Some men in the Democratic party seem to think a strong defense of reproductive rights is optional.
By Jill Filipovic
Mar 29, 2017
On Wednesday's Morning Joe, Vermont senator Bernie Sanders went on to talk about working with Donald Trump and the future of the Democratic Party. Host Joe Scarborough brought up the question of abortion and other "social issues" that he said kept white working-class voters voting Republican in states like West Virginia, where they would gain more economic benefits if Democrats were in charge. He suggested that if Democrats want to win white working-class voters in states like Kentucky, they might need to run candidates who reflect the social values of those same white working-class voters - that is, opposing a woman's legal right to decide for herself whether to carry a pregnancy to term. Could Democrats, Scarborough asked Sanders, "be open to candidates that may not be rigidly pro-choice, may not be rigidly pro gun control?" Sanders said yes.
A few days earlier, a column appeared in the New York Times encouraging Democrats to moderate their abortion stance. The writer, a male theology professor, implored Democrats to tamp down their opposition to the Hyde Amendment, which bars federal Medicaid funds for paying for most abortions - making the procedure harder to get for poor women - and treat abortion as "an issue of profound moral and religious concern." Some men, it seems, think moving right on women's rights will allow the party to secure more votes and give it space to move left on economic issues.
This is a terrible strategy. It demonstrates the limits of "economic populism" when the term is defined by only men. And it's exactly why feminists have been so worried about the backlash against "identity politics" and the obsession from both the right and left with white working-class men. In the aftermath of Hillary Clinton's loss, a cottage industry of "I-told-you-so" men has sprung up to lecture feminists and racial justice advocates on how identity isn't enough to win elections. Many of these same political analysts (and men who play political analysts on Twitter) have an outsize reverence for the white working-class man and seem to think that leftist economic policies will get these conservatives voters to change their long-standing right-wing politics -- if Democrats just abandon the "identity politics" of pushing issues related to race and gender. Of course, when "identity politics" are demonized in an effort to appeal to white men, it's women and minorities who lose out.
Abandoning full-throated support for abortion rights in an attempt to secure more votes from moderates is not a new idea. Throughout the 90s and early 2000s, political commentators - almost always white, almost always male - positioned abortion rights as a social issue fueling divisive culture wars. They painted abortion as an issue of life and religious morality, eclipsing women and relegating the moral value of allowing us sovereignty over our own insides to the background of the picture.
There's No Economic Justice Without Abortion Rights
Some men in the Democratic party seem to think a strong defense of reproductive rights is optional.
By Jill Filipovic
Mar 29, 2017
On Wednesday's Morning Joe, Vermont senator Bernie Sanders went on to talk about working with Donald Trump and the future of the Democratic Party. Host Joe Scarborough brought up the question of abortion and other "social issues" that he said kept white working-class voters voting Republican in states like West Virginia, where they would gain more economic benefits if Democrats were in charge. He suggested that if Democrats want to win white working-class voters in states like Kentucky, they might need to run candidates who reflect the social values of those same white working-class voters - that is, opposing a woman's legal right to decide for herself whether to carry a pregnancy to term. Could Democrats, Scarborough asked Sanders, "be open to candidates that may not be rigidly pro-choice, may not be rigidly pro gun control?" Sanders said yes.
A few days earlier, a column appeared in the New York Times encouraging Democrats to moderate their abortion stance. The writer, a male theology professor, implored Democrats to tamp down their opposition to the Hyde Amendment, which bars federal Medicaid funds for paying for most abortions - making the procedure harder to get for poor women - and treat abortion as "an issue of profound moral and religious concern." Some men, it seems, think moving right on women's rights will allow the party to secure more votes and give it space to move left on economic issues.
This is a terrible strategy. It demonstrates the limits of "economic populism" when the term is defined by only men. And it's exactly why feminists have been so worried about the backlash against "identity politics" and the obsession from both the right and left with white working-class men. In the aftermath of Hillary Clinton's loss, a cottage industry of "I-told-you-so" men has sprung up to lecture feminists and racial justice advocates on how identity isn't enough to win elections. Many of these same political analysts (and men who play political analysts on Twitter) have an outsize reverence for the white working-class man and seem to think that leftist economic policies will get these conservatives voters to change their long-standing right-wing politics -- if Democrats just abandon the "identity politics" of pushing issues related to race and gender. Of course, when "identity politics" are demonized in an effort to appeal to white men, it's women and minorities who lose out.
Abandoning full-throated support for abortion rights in an attempt to secure more votes from moderates is not a new idea. Throughout the 90s and early 2000s, political commentators - almost always white, almost always male - positioned abortion rights as a social issue fueling divisive culture wars. They painted abortion as an issue of life and religious morality, eclipsing women and relegating the moral value of allowing us sovereignty over our own insides to the background of the picture.
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He's also said the exact opposite, and his long time campaign manager reiterated
synergie
Mar 2017
#109
Mybe it's b/c threads like this make it look like he is the only progressive in the party.
AgadorSparticus
Mar 2017
#141
No one on this site hates Sen Sanders, but we do hate those who try to divide us.
FSogol
Mar 2017
#9
Not fawning equals hate? This OP is way over the top - do you seriously believe
seaglass
Mar 2017
#22
I don't believe Bernie said anything in the article clip. The author did. Read the headline and
seaglass
Mar 2017
#36
It is divisive and you read the posts so you know that...you have a reason for this I suppose, but
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#92
It's like a pep talk MM. It's nice if the main stream media discusses progressive trends & figures
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2017
#41
You read your own threads... I presume...try reading the replies and tell me
Demsrule86
Mar 2017
#95
No more and no less than the righteous cries of oppression from self-styled flagellants.
LanternWaste
Mar 2017
#64
Nice try. That claim was never made. Perhaps you will read what you respond to in the future.
JTFrog
Mar 2017
#147
I agree very llittle effort is required, so you should have no problem finding out
synergie
Mar 2017
#154
You'll think differently when they issue Bernie Sanders jetpacks and Bernie Sanders acne cures!
randome
Mar 2017
#82
And your response well illustrates the depth of feeling among those who do not see Sanders
guillaumeb
Mar 2017
#143
Who are we kidding? They control the Presidency, the House, the Senate, and soon SCOTUS.
pnwmom
Mar 2017
#112
Again, anything to add about the article or are you just going to hurl insults?
FDRsGhost
Mar 2017
#127
Including the $15.3 trillion tax hike that would raise middle-income taxes an average of $4,700/yr?
BeyondGeography
Mar 2017
#128