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Tue Apr 4, 2017, 08:09 AM

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Biden: "Dems ignored middle class in 2016 campaign" [View all] FDRsGhost Apr 2017 OP

Sorry Joe. You are flat wrong. The entire campaign was about helping the 90%. bullimiami Apr 2017 #1

Yeah, that is what I say. Most of what they talked about was the middle class. Doreen Apr 2017 #57

If people didn't hear it on cable TV, then it didn't happen. lapucelle Apr 2017 #77

This was discussed earlier. {{ PROCEED WITH CAUTION }} NurseJackie Apr 2017 #2

Ahhh thanks I missed that thread. FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #4

Yes....proceed cautiously Submariner Apr 2017 #10

Why thank you FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #14

re: thought police nocalflea Apr 2017 #30

Lack of concern? synergie Apr 2017 #36

They make themselves obvious when they bracket and go bold with their threats Submariner Apr 2017 #39

Can't sow dissension if facts are allowed. synergie Apr 2017 #50

Obvious is still being obvious. nt JTFrog Apr 2017 #5

And repetitive. Squinch Apr 2017 #52

No. I love Joe, but he's wrong Bettie Apr 2017 #3

Thank you Bettie, I think I'm a lot like you and agree fully. we can do it Apr 2017 #6

This summed it up perfectly. erinlough Apr 2017 #26

I disagree to an extent FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #40

When they keep coming up with bullshit reasons Manly_Scream Apr 2017 #47

So he would have voted for a male democrat, but justnot Hillary... bettyellen Apr 2017 #59

It has nothing to do with gender FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #61

People always have excuses for their bias- he chose to believe bullshit coming from RT and Fox bettyellen Apr 2017 #66

Uh no Betty, I wasn't aware you know my cousin personally FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #69

What specific policies of OMalley's were so different? What evidence of "lying" did he actually bettyellen Apr 2017 #73

I can ask if you'd like me to FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #81

It would be interesting to dig deeper, I think. Have had the conversation with a lot of people and bettyellen Apr 2017 #85

I'll ask him today. Stay tuned. FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #87

Your cousin is the minority fun n serious Apr 2017 #108

With all due respect Joe, but that's not how I remember it. no_hypocrisy Apr 2017 #7

It is disheartening when our heroes fall for the Russian-bot talking points. nikibatts Apr 2017 #8

Want to see an interesting chart about airtime? FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #43

Maybe, because that is the largest number of voters treestar Apr 2017 #9

"They have all they need" former9thward Apr 2017 #21

They do. They have jobs, they have health coverage treestar Apr 2017 #42

My thoughts exactly.. coco22 Apr 2017 #46

Yes, but what do you expect to motivate them? Amishman Apr 2017 #93

gratitude? treestar Apr 2017 #120

That's a pretty weak sales pitch Amishman Apr 2017 #122

I don't think they are motivated by that treestar Apr 2017 #123

Well intentioned but incorrect DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2017 #11

No we didn't. We told them the truth. jrthin Apr 2017 #12

Say it ain't so, Joe! MineralMan Apr 2017 #13

I think good ole Joe is dead wrong on this one. Foamfollower Apr 2017 #15

No. She simply didn't single out the WHITE middle class. pnwmom Apr 2017 #16

I like Russian bots jpak Apr 2017 #17

Sorry but I think Biden is full of it. triron Apr 2017 #18

No Joe. That's bullshit. NT Adrahil Apr 2017 #19

Love Joe, but there is plenty of video evidence to show how wrong he is about this. nt stevenleser Apr 2017 #20

he is full of shit on this JI7 Apr 2017 #22

The media which breathlessly covered her opponents' every expulsion of GI gas synergie Apr 2017 #23

this is interesting and might be worth an OP itself. at a time when major info is coming out about JI7 Apr 2017 #24

Or ... not so weird. synergie Apr 2017 #27

The sexsim and double standards from the media exhibited during the election was obvious still_one Apr 2017 #31

Not just the media. synergie Apr 2017 #33

yes. Thank you still_one Apr 2017 #35

if they are making 90K a Year with just 2 kids, why ARen't they making it ? JI7 Apr 2017 #25

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Wow where to even start... FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #44

I disagree with him in many ways Warpy Apr 2017 #29

The DLC... FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #45

It was disbanded as an official organization Warpy Apr 2017 #58

Prominent dems use this excuse because it's become politically improper to Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #32

Hillary did use them and it's one reason she gets so many attacks. people on both sides JI7 Apr 2017 #34

Look the TrumpRussia investigation is classified and for good reason. underthematrix Apr 2017 #37

I think we ignored most things other than Trump being reprehensible Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2017 #38

Meh - she came really close to winning. No 'numerology' involved at all muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #48

The worst case scenario for Obama's successor should have still been a landslide Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2017 #60

And yet you thought over a year ago we'd lose, when Bernie was still a possible primary winner muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #62

Due to alert stalkers I prefer not to mention the Senator from Vermont, Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2017 #63

I have no idea what purpose that question serves muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #64

No, I think you know exactly and just don't want to answer it. Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2017 #65

No, because you thought that neither Sanders nor Clinton would have won, over a year ago muriel_volestrangler Apr 2017 #67

I believed that because I suspected Clinton would be the nominee and lose. Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2017 #70

Obama may've done worse than Hillary, radius777 Apr 2017 #75

So Obama's sheer blackness wasn't enough for "white nationalists" to vote for McCain and Romney? Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2017 #91

They see Obama as a disaster and voted for the piece of shit birther JI7 Apr 2017 #68

What many fail to understand is kacekwl Apr 2017 #41

So, Clinton's campaign was perfect? I supported her but looking back there were flaws KittyWampus Apr 2017 #49

Oh, look. It's you again. Doing the same thing again. Squinch Apr 2017 #51

I thought the middle class was smarter than that. Maybe not all were. You don't vote for a bad caroldansen Apr 2017 #53

Hillary talked about the working class. Media chose to talk about emails sharedvalues Apr 2017 #54

$32,000 as a hostess!! Eko Apr 2017 #55

Biden let Republicans take over Dem states in 2010. He did nothing about it. delisen Apr 2017 #56

Good point- it's tiresome to see white men ignore their privledged position in society.... bettyellen Apr 2017 #74

Biden let the Republicans take over??? former9thward Apr 2017 #84

Tell us how Hillary stood up to Putin FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #90

This is going to sound stupid and impudent... jmowreader Apr 2017 #71

Coastal Housing Costs, Property Taxes and Private School Sen. Walter Sobchak Apr 2017 #72

College may very well factor into this equation FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #82

Biden makes it sound like ALL $92k families are on the verge of starvation jmowreader Apr 2017 #83

Well if you happen to live in Denver & have 2 kids in college FDRsGhost Apr 2017 #88

They did but the media was only interested in Trump nt doc03 Apr 2017 #76

I think a better question was "Did Hillary give the rust belt hope?" because that is the region that Quixote1818 Apr 2017 #78

Good point. I think we can win back those voters by focusing on the issues important to them. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #79

Rick Scott gov Wisconsin elected in 2010, won recall, Wisconsin Dems delisen Apr 2017 #105

It's possible to be critical of both recent and less recent strategies - or the lack of them. beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #106

Lost because of voter suppression & propaganda not Biden's middle class analysis delisen Apr 2017 #119

they weren't voting on NAFTA since they voted in even higher numbers for pro nafta republicans JI7 Apr 2017 #86

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Yes, HUGE mistake, elleng Apr 2017 #107

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I guess so, and I agree about the on the ground people being blown off. elleng Apr 2017 #116

Right, you and Michael Moore. elleng Apr 2017 #104

The middle class was not ignored during the campaign. warmfeet Apr 2017 #80

Hillary Clinton Announces New Details of Middle Class Tax Cut Plan oberliner Apr 2017 #89

Thank you. And she had a jobs plan and health care plan also to help the middle class. n/t pnwmom Apr 2017 #92

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Insult who how? Seriously? Men feel insulted when they aren't the number one focus bettyellen Apr 2017 #96

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Your reply doesn't address how you thought she was insulting white middle class men- bettyellen Apr 2017 #98

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Didn't expect you to be so coy about this, and you're wasting my time bettyellen Apr 2017 #101

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I asked about who you felt was being insulted, and you've backed out of that and made it about bettyellen Apr 2017 #103

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Sending me be same link over and over again doesn't answer my question... bettyellen Apr 2017 #117

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+10000 betsuni Apr 2017 #121

Over 1000 Dem seats were lost between 2008 and 2016. Had nothing to do with Clinton delisen Apr 2017 #109

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Recommended. H2O Man Apr 2017 #95

Wrong... Mike Nelson Apr 2017 #110

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LMAO! beam me up scottie Apr 2017 #115