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Warpy

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27. Not as many as you apparently think
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 10:38 PM
Apr 2017

The party's heyday was in the 1920s and 1930s when they were warning about and standing up to Hitler and his domestic apologists like Prescott Bush. Once people found out where Stalin and later Krushchev were really at, they quietly drifted away and hoped like hell they weren't rich and famous enough to be targeted by the HUAC.

That has persisted as leftists with the brain cells it takes to be a leftist recognized that the "Communism" in Russia was largely a totalitarian, right wing phenomenon, the party having taken the places of the Czar and his aristocrats, the people still powerless.

Now they're well aware that the country is still controlled by old communists who grabbed all they could during the transition to whatever it is now.

Everything is antithetical to the American left over there. Maybe there are college kids who romanticize the early revolutionary period. There are also college kids who take Rand seriously. They'll all grow out of it.

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There are a lot of Russia apologists on the Left, unfortunately. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #1
Not as many as you apparently think Warpy Apr 2017 #27
There are a lot of people spinning BS on DU too. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #30
Yikes. nt jrthin Apr 2017 #2
In his mind; Communism equals Russia FrenchieCat Apr 2017 #3
The old Soviet Union wasn't totalitarian? onenote Apr 2017 #11
He's not a communist. n/t QC Apr 2017 #16
Certainly tensions with Russia have been reduced; no question about it gratuitous Apr 2017 #4
Reducing tensions with Russia isn't a bad thing. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #5
Well said. How do they not see this? Squinch Apr 2017 #21
One of Chomsky's points: guillaumeb Apr 2017 #6
No one I know ignores it SHRED Apr 2017 #9
The media ignores it. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #15
You think the Russian interference is something to laugh about? Or well deserved? bettyellen Apr 2017 #10
Exactly SHRED Apr 2017 #14
My point was to point out what Chomsky said about US electoral interference. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #17
You think Russian involvement is over? And you're not all that upset about their election since bettyellen Apr 2017 #20
Russian interference is white Christian nationalism going global. The Republican Party delisen Apr 2017 #24
Stephen Kinzer's book, "Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq... brush Apr 2017 #18
Agreed. The US first interfered, as I said, in Haiti and Canada, guillaumeb Apr 2017 #19
Interstate Crosscheck and repug vote suppression tactics were huge. Agreed. Plus Comey. brush Apr 2017 #25
I made this point about US history a while back, or suggested it. Just as a point of historical fact pangaia Apr 2017 #26
Chomsky has talked about what are the acceptable limits of debate. guillaumeb Apr 2017 #34
Even in this thread quite a few do not seem to understand what you are saying. pangaia Apr 2017 #35
Cognitive dissonance? guillaumeb Apr 2017 #36
The one ray of light? BeyondGeography Apr 2017 #7
He hates the main stream media so much I'm thinking he's cheering on it's destruction.... bettyellen Apr 2017 #8
Why are so many calling "compromising government officials" "reducing tensions with Russia"? TeamPooka Apr 2017 #12
uh, ask congress, there are two congressional investigations...go ask them spanone Apr 2017 #13
Yeah, Chomsky has been a Soviet Union/Russia apologist. NT Adrahil Apr 2017 #22
The far left does either/or thinking. Hitler was Evil therefore Stalin was good. delisen Apr 2017 #23
He'll be 89 this year Warpy Apr 2017 #28
Interesting, what were the circumstances of you meeting him. grantcart Apr 2017 #32
I worked at MIT for a while. Warpy Apr 2017 #33
The outrage isn't over the idea of easing tensions, it is about stealing elections. YUUUge diff. L. Coyote Apr 2017 #29
He's one of those of the leftist camps Downtown Hound Apr 2017 #31
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