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JCanete

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16. Sanders push on the Democratic party did not end with that result. It ended with a party that
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 06:12 PM
Apr 2017

made ovations to the left and convinced me to vote for Hillary Clinton in the GE. Most Sanders supporters voted for Clinton in the GE, and I'm not sure there are any numbers that suggest that there are enough people out there who would have voted for Clinton if not for Sanders.

Starting from a place of total uncorroborated bullshit to make a point is not strengthening this person's argument.

Also, lumping what Sanders was saying in with every other attack of every variety on liberals is also disingenuous. Its fair to say that if he wants to make a point about a certain elitism that using terms that Republicans have used comes with all that baggage. That's true. I think that's complicated and dicey territory. I think he's using it because the language is familiar and already believed, but he's attempting to change the content of that meaning, but that doesn't mean that's a good strategy, and I think that's fair criticism to bring. To pretend that he's saying all this other shit is entirely straw-manning.

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It's rich in irony, too, considering the rallies LisaM Apr 2017 #1
This is why I have "Bernie" and "Sanders" as two keywords in my "trash" list. Squinch Apr 2017 #2
Telling someone what they're doing wrong and what they could do to correct it Warpy Apr 2017 #3
No.. he's wrong.. he needs to be called Cha Apr 2017 #5
I criticize politicians, I can criticize choices by Dems but.. "Liberal Elite" is a code phrase.. JHan Apr 2017 #22
Well, that doesn't matter much now since Perez and Ellison Warpy Apr 2017 #23
True, I have faith in them... JHan Apr 2017 #24
Skin would be thin if Sanders had a clue, he doesn't.. sound bite shit that has no basis in reality uponit7771 Apr 2017 #32
Conservatives are so thin skinned they'll take anything they can out of context Warpy Apr 2017 #33
K&R betsuni Apr 2017 #4
Great article Gothmog Apr 2017 #6
The right uses liberal elite as a rhetorical distraction Cha Apr 2017 #7
It is just more divisive rhetoric. brer cat Apr 2017 #8
I agree, it's nonproductive divisive rhetoric. tammywammy Apr 2017 #9
Hypocritical, too. Cha Apr 2017 #10
This is the same rhetoric the RW uses about "liberals". You can hear this tripe on R B Garr Apr 2017 #11
Exactly or anyone calling themselves a "progressive". tammywammy Apr 2017 #12
+1000 sheshe2 Apr 2017 #15
That is exactly what it is. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #30
Great post, and a good reminder about priorities and his R B Garr Apr 2017 #34
First Off Me. Apr 2017 #13
Yes, his attacks look like sour grapes whining because R B Garr Apr 2017 #18
As For No Working Class People In Cities... Me. Apr 2017 #25
And, it was his third house. LisaM Apr 2017 #26
Agreed Gothmog Apr 2017 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author ymetca Apr 2017 #14
"Bernie is well aware of that misconception, and exploits it for political gain." SunSeeker Apr 2017 #28
Sanders push on the Democratic party did not end with that result. It ended with a party that JCanete Apr 2017 #16
The 50% + 3 million MAJORITY who voted for Hillary are NOT ELITES. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #17
No Democrat or progressive should ever use the word "elite." Lonestarblue Apr 2017 #19
The term "Liberal Elite" is a phony term used by those who can't get their own way, almost... George II Apr 2017 #20
It's unbelievable that so-called progressives (SCPs) NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #21
All the while minimizing the impact of Russia and James Comey. Message to BS: If you can't win..... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2017 #27
What an idiotic hateful, right wing pandering lie: SunSeeker Apr 2017 #29
I'm becoming increasingly disappointed in Bernie Sanders. yardwork Apr 2017 #31
Funny the only elitists I know are conservatives crazycatlady Apr 2017 #35
This is exactly what I was saying BainsBane Apr 2017 #36
I think I'm special, but mischaracterizing me as "elite" Hortensis Apr 2017 #38
K&r UTUSN Apr 2017 #39
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