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In reply to the discussion: The next time you are thinking about praising Bernie Sanders.... [View all]PatsFan87
(368 posts)239. I see two reasons why DNC fundraising isn't where it should be.
1) A lot of people don't trust and/or have high expectations in the DNC, and I can't say that I blame them.
2) Other political operations like Organizing for Action take resources away from state parties and grassroots movements. For perspective:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/obama-democrats-party-building-234820
[With] all due respect to President Obama, OFA was created as a shadow party because Obama operatives had no faith in state parties. So I hope the OFA role is none. I hope OFA closes their doors and allows the country and state parties to get to the hard work of rebuilding the party at the local and grass-roots level, said Nebraska Democratic Party Chair Jane Kleeb, echoing a sentiment that has dominated private chatter among state party chairs for months. OFA had no faith or confidence in the state parties so they created a whole separate organization, they took money away and centralized it in D.C. They gave us a great president for eight years, but we lost everywhere else."
That tension has reached the point where state chairs pitching donors now feel the need to explain what their local committees can legally do that an external effort like OFA cannot. Those state leaders also went out of their way to ensure that the data and supporter lists from Clintons campaign would revert to the party after the election. OFAs data treasure trove, after all, didnt settle at the DNC until 2015 three years after Obamas reelection.
It created a shadow organization that was recruiting the same volunteers [as the DNC], using resources from a very limited number of donors, and therefore, as a result it weakened the DNC and the impact that the DNC and state parties could have on politics during his tenure, said South Carolina Democratic Party Chairman Jaime Harrison, a candidate for DNC chair. Youve got five organizations knocking on the same door with five different messages. Thats not conducive. In the age of Trump we need to be a lean, mean, strategic machine."
It created a shadow organization that was recruiting the same volunteers [as the DNC], using resources from a very limited number of donors, and therefore, as a result it weakened the DNC and the impact that the DNC and state parties could have on politics during his tenure, said South Carolina Democratic Party Chairman Jaime Harrison, a candidate for DNC chair. Youve got five organizations knocking on the same door with five different messages. Thats not conducive. In the age of Trump we need to be a lean, mean, strategic machine."
Resources that are financial, and other resources like data and ideas that people are trying to bring to fruition in terms of organizing kits and materials: thats what the DNC needs to spend its time doing, so the only outside apparatus we should have in terms of the party is the [state] parties, said Parkhomenko, pointing to years of low investment and attention paid to local Democratic committees. The lack of party and DNC [capacity] was a big contributing factor to what happened in the last election, [and] hopefully it will be a lesson to our party to never let this happen again."
OFA should fold into the DNC. Having two organizations is redundant, and dilutes and confuses the mission. Given the urgency of the moment, we need laser-like focus, with clear lanes and cohesion, not duplication, said former Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm.
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The next time you are thinking about praising Bernie Sanders.... [View all]
scheming daemons
Apr 2017
OP
If he distains being a Democrat then why didn't he run as an Independent. I don't get?
olegramps
Apr 2017
#112
Well you do know it's been used as a way to dismiss women and POC who care about issues that effect
bettyellen
Apr 2017
#297
It's shorthand for people (who do have a history of suffering from discrimination) voting or
bettyellen
Apr 2017
#308
Because he knew he would have thrown the election to the Repug if he'd run as indy.
yodermon
Apr 2017
#131
No. I mean he literally would have been a big-ass jill stein (ralph nader '00)
yodermon
Apr 2017
#173
Moore correctly prodicted that when he entered the race, Hilary was doomed to defeat.
olegramps
Apr 2017
#186
The Dem party allowed him to run in its primaries but he subsequently returns the "favor" by ...
brush
Apr 2017
#334
It doesn't alter my perception at all. Merely enhances, enlarges, and underscores it.
calimary
Apr 2017
#160
Yes he did. We won remember? By almost 3 mil votes. Trump's Russians played with the our election,
The Wielding Truth
Apr 2017
#341
Retro -- I agree with you! Whatever happened to alienate voters from Dems (and a hell
Akamai
Apr 2017
#373
Wow! Really?? Why does he keep saying that if it's demonstrably incorrect?
NurseJackie
Apr 2017
#108
On the other hand, Obama, Clinton, Biden and Schumer were down there working their asses off?
rgbecker
Apr 2017
#4
It is the job of alleged progressives to sabotage the Democratic Party, and they are doing
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2017
#228
The reality is, you don't repair a party by burying your head in the sand.
virtualobserver
Apr 2017
#247
More bullshit, I am more critical of the party than anybody I know in the party. But, again, I
Eliot Rosewater
Apr 2017
#248
Bingo. People need to be less defensive if the party's going to get stronger. Schumer gets that,
JudyM
Apr 2017
#355
Bull. Bernie seems to have more energy for scolding Democrats than Republicans, though. nt
Hekate
Apr 2017
#253
I agree... I don't get the Bernie bashing either.. it's been six months already... enough.
secondwind
Apr 2017
#41
Some think it's a badge of honor to keep ripping off each other's scabs. Keeping DU from healing
JudyM
Apr 2017
#356
Sanders is always held to a higher standard around here. And Grantcart and PatsFan87...
thesquanderer
Apr 2017
#139
I think Sanders maybe more popular at the moment and maybe more of a help getting the base out.
hrmjustin
Apr 2017
#268
This is pretty funny, considering the absolute silence that came from the central party re Kansas.
Kentonio
Apr 2017
#8
His group Our Revolution actually picked up a lot of the slack since the Dems dropped the ball.
PatsFan87
Apr 2017
#12
The Kansas Democratic party is basically broke. Who's to know where all that DNC
PatsFan87
Apr 2017
#25
I actually have volunteered for campaigns, but thank you for your condescending tone. :)
PatsFan87
Apr 2017
#58
You actually made the claim that Bernie "did nothing" in the special election.
PatsFan87
Apr 2017
#117
My claim is that you don't show up when there's a greater likelihood that you will hurt
PatsFan87
Apr 2017
#73
You don't need to have expertise in political strategy to have basic common sense.
PatsFan87
Apr 2017
#93
One might say the same about the DCCC, the subject of much harsh criticism from Bernie
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#39
I won't defend Sarandon but as far as Bernie's comments, I and many others agree with him.
PatsFan87
Apr 2017
#103
Hillary isn't telling the Democratic Party that she should be deciding their policy
ehrnst
Apr 2017
#47
Did it ever occur to you that HRC may well have been a drag on Ossoff (in a RED district)?
Stinky The Clown
Apr 2017
#53
But isn't his leadership position with the Senate Democrats to promote Democratic candidates?
George II
Apr 2017
#191
The only "bias" I have is toward Democrats, and no, he isn't the most "popular".
George II
Apr 2017
#177
Being in office has nothing to do with whether or not you can be helpful in a campaign. But also...
thesquanderer
Apr 2017
#151
She is not in Public Office, I imagine she must have so free time to help Democrats now.
bahrbearian
Apr 2017
#201
Lots of former Republican Presidents would be considered Liberal by today's standards
nini
Apr 2017
#358
THANK you. He is extremely divisive. There is no excuse for him putting himself out as
R B Garr
Apr 2017
#296
I take it personally, because I had a post removed when I tried to bring balance
Baitball Blogger
Apr 2017
#206
Bernie is on the same type of energy cycle you and I are on...there is a finite supply. So instead
downeastdaniel
Apr 2017
#85
Why does Schumer even bother having an "outreach" position within the party...
NurseJackie
Apr 2017
#219
It is when actual Democrats aren't criticized for the same thing, and...
StubbornThings
Apr 2017
#264
So, he's not a Democrat but it's his fault that he didn't help another Democrat win.
StubbornThings
Apr 2017
#141
Bernie may not be perfect but he's one one of the best candidates on the left that we have.
jalan48
Apr 2017
#147
Perhaps Ossoff did not ask for nor want Sanders' support or help??? Possible???
northoftheborder
Apr 2017
#169
Why is Bernie (not even a Democrat) the only one being criticized here?
StubbornThings
Apr 2017
#269
Don't they love guns down there in GA? He could have reached out to those people. nt
LexVegas
Apr 2017
#229
Sooooo frustrating watching us eat our allies with these poisonous OPs.
LiberalLovinLug
Apr 2017
#322
I don't want to hijack your op, but this is a prime example of what he does...
tallahasseedem
Apr 2017
#361
I come to praise Bernie and here is Ossoff's campaign page, where are his liberal or progressive
PoliticalPie
Apr 2017
#368
Why do you believe a liberal can't be elected there? W.V. also likes Manchin, what good does he
PoliticalPie
Apr 2017
#381
Manchin votes with Democrats most of the times. far more than the most left leaning republican
JI7
Apr 2017
#382
Bernie Sanders & Tom Perez chairman of the DNC set to stump for Mello (D) at Baxter Arena
Omaha Steve
Apr 2017
#376
So, which Democratic party elites did show up to support John Ossoff?
left-of-center2012
Apr 2017
#380