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Gregorian

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32. All we're doing is working on the symptoms.

Tue Jul 3, 2012, 10:55 AM

Jul 2012

2 people cut 10 trees. That makes a small house. And firewood. 2 billion people cut 20 billion trees. Unsustainable. We can cram more people into the same house. Or make the house smaller. Or try to figure out different material to make the house out of.

I'm always amazed that even the most liberal are unwilling to look at the biggest problem we face. As far as I can tell we're so far over the edge it's not worth discussing. The Berlin air lift was something we had to do, but can you imagine the carbon footprint of that single episode in history. Or Bush's wars. My point being that the incremental changes we're making are small attempts to chisel away at a symptom, and not enough to solve the problem.

At any rate, you sound like someone who cares and understands. It's nice to see people who can see that we're in trouble.

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I hate to break it to you, but. . . [View all] MadHound Jul 2012 OP

Capitalism at its best. SoutherDem Jul 2012 #1

The Rapture will happen DearAbby Jul 2012 #2

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You could also line the sides of Skyscrapers with cylindrical wind generators. Sirveri Jul 2012 #50

We did start right around that time.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #7

Emission mitigation was never going to happen, their focus now is geoengineering. joshcryer Jul 2012 #14

Interested mahina Jul 2012 #21

Wikipedia has a good article: joshcryer Jul 2012 #25

The real problem is that the solution requires "not doing". Gregorian Jul 2012 #6

True that, but it also requires doing, MadHound Jul 2012 #8

All we're doing is working on the symptoms. Gregorian Jul 2012 #32

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They're starting to become rather common MadHound Jul 2012 #43

Thanks oldhippie Jul 2012 #48

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Both extremes have not at all been beneficial to scientific discourse. nt AverageJoe90 Jul 2012 #41

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That's what they're planning. joshcryer Jul 2012 #19

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Probably not even that DemocratsForProgress Jul 2012 #24

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Gloom and Doom, I'm sorry to say........ AverageJoe90 Jul 2012 #42

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